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5. The Chapter on a Cliff

A Bungalow

Saṁyutta Nikāya
5. Papātavagga
Kūṭāgārasutta
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5. The Chapter on a Cliff
A Bungalow
Saṁyutta Nikāya
5. Papātavagga
Kūṭāgārasutta
A Bungalow

Just as it’s impossible to climb the upper floor without building the lower floors first, it’s impossible to end suffering without penetrating the four noble truths.

Ruta suttaSN 56.44Sutta Piṭaka › Saṃyutta Nikāya › 5. Mahāvaggasaṁyutta › 56. Saccasaṁyutta › 5. Papātavagga › Kūṭāgārasutta
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“Mendicants, suppose someone were to say:‘Without truly comprehending the noble truths of suffering, its origin, its cessation, and the path, I will completely make an end of suffering.’That is not possible.

“Yo hi, bhikkhave, evaṁ vadeyya: *hi, bhikkhave → yo ca kho bhikkhave (sya-all, mr)‘ahaṁ dukkhaṁ ariyasaccaṁ yathābhūtaṁ anabhisamecca …pe… dukkhanirodhagāminiṁ paṭipadaṁ ariyasaccaṁ yathābhūtaṁ anabhisamecca sammā dukkhassantaṁ karissāmī’ti—netaṁ ṭhānaṁ vijjati.

“Mendicants, suppose someone were to say:
“Yo hi, bhikkhave, evaṁ vadeyya: *hi, bhikkhave → yo ca kho bhikkhave (sya-all, mr)
‘Without truly comprehending the noble truths of suffering, its origin, its cessation, and the path, I will completely make an end of suffering.’
‘ahaṁ dukkhaṁ ariyasaccaṁ yathābhūtaṁ anabhisamecca …pe… dukkhanirodhagāminiṁ paṭipadaṁ ariyasaccaṁ yathābhūtaṁ anabhisamecca sammā dukkhassantaṁ karissāmī’ti—
That is not possible.
netaṁ ṭhānaṁ vijjati.

“Mendicants, suppose someone were to say:“Yo hi, bhikkhave, evaṁ vadeyya: *hi, bhikkhave → yo ca kho bhikkhave (sya-all, mr)‘Without truly comprehending the noble truths of suffering, its origin, its cessation, and the path, I will completely make an end of suffering.’‘ahaṁ dukkhaṁ ariyasaccaṁ yathābhūtaṁ anabhisamecca …pe… dukkhanirodhagāminiṁ paṭipadaṁ ariyasaccaṁ yathābhūtaṁ anabhisamecca sammā dukkhassantaṁ karissāmī’ti—That is not possible.netaṁ ṭhānaṁ vijjati.

It’s as if someone were to say:‘Before the lower story of a bungalow is built, I will hoist up the upper story.’That is not possible.In the same way, suppose someone were to say:‘Without truly comprehending the noble truths of suffering, its origin, its cessation, and the path, I will completely make an end of suffering.’That is not possible.

Seyyathāpi, bhikkhave, yo evaṁ vadeyya: ‘ahaṁ kūṭāgārassa heṭṭhimaṁ gharaṁ akaritvā uparimaṁ gharaṁ āropessāmī’ti—netaṁ ṭhānaṁ vijjati; evameva kho, bhikkhave, yo evaṁ vadeyya: ‘ahaṁ dukkhaṁ ariyasaccaṁ yathābhūtaṁ anabhisamecca …pe… dukkhanirodhagāminiṁ paṭipadaṁ ariyasaccaṁ yathābhūtaṁ anabhisamecca sammā dukkhassantaṁ karissāmī’ti—netaṁ ṭhānaṁ vijjati.

It’s as if someone were to say:
Seyyathāpi, bhikkhave, yo evaṁ vadeyya:
‘Before the lower story of a bungalow is built, I will hoist up the upper story.’
‘ahaṁ kūṭāgārassa heṭṭhimaṁ gharaṁ akaritvā uparimaṁ gharaṁ āropessāmī’ti—
That is not possible.
netaṁ ṭhānaṁ vijjati;
In the same way, suppose someone were to say:
evameva kho, bhikkhave, yo evaṁ vadeyya:
‘Without truly comprehending the noble truths of suffering, its origin, its cessation, and the path, I will completely make an end of suffering.’
‘ahaṁ dukkhaṁ ariyasaccaṁ yathābhūtaṁ anabhisamecca …pe… dukkhanirodhagāminiṁ paṭipadaṁ ariyasaccaṁ yathābhūtaṁ anabhisamecca sammā dukkhassantaṁ karissāmī’ti—
That is not possible.
netaṁ ṭhānaṁ vijjati.

It’s as if someone were to say:Seyyathāpi, bhikkhave, yo evaṁ vadeyya: ‘Before the lower story of a bungalow is built, I will hoist up the upper story.’‘ahaṁ kūṭāgārassa heṭṭhimaṁ gharaṁ akaritvā uparimaṁ gharaṁ āropessāmī’ti—That is not possible.netaṁ ṭhānaṁ vijjati; In the same way, suppose someone were to say:evameva kho, bhikkhave, yo evaṁ vadeyya: ‘Without truly comprehending the noble truths of suffering, its origin, its cessation, and the path, I will completely make an end of suffering.’‘ahaṁ dukkhaṁ ariyasaccaṁ yathābhūtaṁ anabhisamecca …pe… dukkhanirodhagāminiṁ paṭipadaṁ ariyasaccaṁ yathābhūtaṁ anabhisamecca sammā dukkhassantaṁ karissāmī’ti—That is not possible.netaṁ ṭhānaṁ vijjati.

But suppose someone were to say:‘After truly comprehending the noble truths of suffering, its origin, its cessation, and the path, I will completely make an end of suffering.’That is possible.

Yo ca kho, bhikkhave, evaṁ vadeyya: ‘ahaṁ dukkhaṁ ariyasaccaṁ yathābhūtaṁ abhisamecca …pe… dukkhanirodhagāminiṁ paṭipadaṁ ariyasaccaṁ yathābhūtaṁ abhisamecca sammā dukkhassantaṁ karissāmī’ti—ṭhānametaṁ vijjati.

But suppose someone were to say:
Yo ca kho, bhikkhave, evaṁ vadeyya:
‘After truly comprehending the noble truths of suffering, its origin, its cessation, and the path, I will completely make an end of suffering.’
‘ahaṁ dukkhaṁ ariyasaccaṁ yathābhūtaṁ abhisamecca …pe… dukkhanirodhagāminiṁ paṭipadaṁ ariyasaccaṁ yathābhūtaṁ abhisamecca sammā dukkhassantaṁ karissāmī’ti—
That is possible.
ṭhānametaṁ vijjati.

But suppose someone were to say:Yo ca kho, bhikkhave, evaṁ vadeyya: ‘After truly comprehending the noble truths of suffering, its origin, its cessation, and the path, I will completely make an end of suffering.’‘ahaṁ dukkhaṁ ariyasaccaṁ yathābhūtaṁ abhisamecca …pe… dukkhanirodhagāminiṁ paṭipadaṁ ariyasaccaṁ yathābhūtaṁ abhisamecca sammā dukkhassantaṁ karissāmī’ti—That is possible.ṭhānametaṁ vijjati.

It’s as if someone were to say:‘After the lower story of a bungalow is built, I will hoist up the upper story.’That is possible.In the same way, suppose someone were to say:‘After truly comprehending the noble truths of suffering, its origin, its cessation, and the path, I will completely make an end of suffering.’That is possible.

Seyyathāpi, bhikkhave, yo evaṁ vadeyya: ‘ahaṁ kūṭāgārassa heṭṭhimaṁ gharaṁ karitvā uparimaṁ gharaṁ āropessāmī’ti—ṭhānametaṁ vijjati; evameva kho, bhikkhave, yo evaṁ vadeyya: ‘ahaṁ dukkhaṁ ariyasaccaṁ yathābhūtaṁ abhisamecca …pe… dukkhanirodhagāminiṁ paṭipadaṁ ariyasaccaṁ yathābhūtaṁ abhisamecca sammā dukkhassantaṁ karissāmī’ti—ṭhānametaṁ vijjati.

It’s as if someone were to say:
Seyyathāpi, bhikkhave, yo evaṁ vadeyya:
‘After the lower story of a bungalow is built, I will hoist up the upper story.’
‘ahaṁ kūṭāgārassa heṭṭhimaṁ gharaṁ karitvā uparimaṁ gharaṁ āropessāmī’ti—
That is possible.
ṭhānametaṁ vijjati;
In the same way, suppose someone were to say:
evameva kho, bhikkhave, yo evaṁ vadeyya:
‘After truly comprehending the noble truths of suffering, its origin, its cessation, and the path, I will completely make an end of suffering.’
‘ahaṁ dukkhaṁ ariyasaccaṁ yathābhūtaṁ abhisamecca …pe… dukkhanirodhagāminiṁ paṭipadaṁ ariyasaccaṁ yathābhūtaṁ abhisamecca sammā dukkhassantaṁ karissāmī’ti—
That is possible.
ṭhānametaṁ vijjati.

It’s as if someone were to say:Seyyathāpi, bhikkhave, yo evaṁ vadeyya: ‘After the lower story of a bungalow is built, I will hoist up the upper story.’‘ahaṁ kūṭāgārassa heṭṭhimaṁ gharaṁ karitvā uparimaṁ gharaṁ āropessāmī’ti—That is possible.ṭhānametaṁ vijjati; In the same way, suppose someone were to say:evameva kho, bhikkhave, yo evaṁ vadeyya: ‘After truly comprehending the noble truths of suffering, its origin, its cessation, and the path, I will completely make an end of suffering.’‘ahaṁ dukkhaṁ ariyasaccaṁ yathābhūtaṁ abhisamecca …pe… dukkhanirodhagāminiṁ paṭipadaṁ ariyasaccaṁ yathābhūtaṁ abhisamecca sammā dukkhassantaṁ karissāmī’ti—That is possible.ṭhānametaṁ vijjati.

That’s why you should practice meditation …”

Tasmātiha, bhikkhave, ‘idaṁ dukkhan’ti yogo karaṇīyo …pe… ‘ayaṁ dukkhanirodhagāminī paṭipadā’ti yogo karaṇīyo”ti.

That’s why you should practice meditation …”
Tasmātiha, bhikkhave, ‘idaṁ dukkhan’ti yogo karaṇīyo …pe… ‘ayaṁ dukkhanirodhagāminī paṭipadā’ti yogo karaṇīyo”ti.

That’s why you should practice meditation …”Tasmātiha, bhikkhave, ‘idaṁ dukkhan’ti yogo karaṇīyo …pe… ‘ayaṁ dukkhanirodhagāminī paṭipadā’ti yogo karaṇīyo”ti.

Catutthaṁ.

Catutthaṁ.

Catutthaṁ.

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