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1. The Great Chapter

Individuality and name; the chariot simile

Khuddaka Nikāya
1. Mahāvagga
Paññattipañha
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1. The Great Chapter
Individuality and name; the chariot simile
Khuddaka Nikāya
1. Mahāvagga
Paññattipañha
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Questions of King Milinda
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PTS cs 1 PTS vp En 40 PTS vp Pali 25 Now Milinda the king went up to where the venerable Nāgasena was, and addressed him with the greetings and compliments of friendship and courtesy, and took his seat respectfully apart. And Nāgasena reciprocated his courtesy, so that the heart of the king was propitiated.

And Milinda began by asking, ‘How is your Reverence known, and what, Sir, is your name?’

‘I am known as Nāgasena, O king, and it is by that name that my brethren in the faith address me. But although parents, O king, give such a name as Nāgasena, or Sūrasena, or Vīrasena, or Sīhasena, yet this, Sire—Nāgasena and so on—is only a generally understood term, a designation in common use. For there is no permanent individuality (no soul) involved in the matter.’ PTS vp En 41 Then Milinda called upon the Yonakas and the brethren to witness: ‘This Nāgasena says there is no permanent individuality (no soul) implied in his name. Is it now even possible to approve him in that?’ And turning to Nāgasena, he said: ‘If, most reverend Nāgasena, there be no permanent individuality (no soul) involved in the matter, who is it, pray, who gives to you members of the Order your robes and food and lodging and necessaries for the sick? Who is it who enjoys such things when given? Who is it who lives a life of righteousness? Who is it who devotes himself to meditation? Who is it who attains to the goal of the Excellent Way, to the Nirvāṇa of Arahatship? And who is it who destroys living creatures? who is it who takes what is not his own? who is it who lives an evil life of worldly lusts, who speaks lies, who drinks strong drink, who (in a word) commits any one of the five sins which work out their bitter fruit even in this life ? If that be so there is neither merit nor demerit; there is neither doer nor causer of good or evil deeds ; there is neither fruit nor result of good or evil Karma. PTS vp Pali 26 —If, most reverend Nāgasena, we are to think that were a man PTS vp En 42 to kill you there would be no murder, then it follows that there are no real masters or teachers in your Order, and that your ordinations are void.—You tell me that your brethren in the Order are in the habit of addressing you as Nāgasena. Now what is that Nāgasena? Do you mean to say that the hair is Nāgasena?’

‘I don’t say that, great king.’

‘Or the hairs on the body, perhaps?’

‘Certainly not.’

‘Or is it the nails, the teeth, the skin, the flesh, the nerves, the bones, the marrow, the kidneys, the heart, the liver, the abdomen, the spleen, the lungs, the larger intestines, the lower intestines, the stomach, the faeces, the bile, the phlegm, the pus, the blood, the sweat, the fat, the tears, the serum, the saliva, the mucus, the oil that lubricates the joints, the urine, or the brain, or any or all of these, that is Nāgasena ?’

And to each of these he answered no.

‘Is it the outward form then (Rūpa) that is Nāgasena, or the sensations (Vedanā), or the ideas (Saññā), or the conditions (the constituent elements of character, Saṁkhārā), or the consciousness (Vigññāna), that is Nāgasena ?’

And to each of these also he answered no. PTS vp En 43

‘Then is it all these Skandhas combined that are Nāgasena?’

‘No! great king.’

‘But is there anything outside the five Skandhas that is Nāgasena?’

And still he answered no.

‘Then thus, ask as I may, I can discover no Nāgasena. Nāgasena is a mere empty sound. Who then is the Nāgasena that we see before us? It is a falsehood that your reverence has spoken, an untruth!’

And the venerable Nāgasena said to Milinda the king: ‘You, Sire, have been brought up in great luxury, as beseems your noble birth. If you were to walk this dry weather on the hot and sandy ground, trampling under foot the gritty, gravelly grains of the hard sand, your feet would hurt you. And as your body would be in pain, your mind would be disturbed, and you would experience a sense of bodily suffering. How then did you come, on foot, or in a chariot?’

‘I did not come, Sir, on foot PTS vp Pali 27 . I came in a carriage.’

‘Then if you came, Sire, in a carriage, explain to me what that is. Is it the pole that is the chariot?’

‘I did not say that.’

‘Is it the axle that is the chariot?’

‘Certainly not.’

‘Is it the wheels, or the framework, or the ropes, or the yoke, or the spokes of the wheels, or the goad, that are the chariot?’

And to all these he still answered no.

‘Then is it all these parts of it that are the chariot?’ PTS vp En 44

‘No, Sir.’

‘But is there anything outside them that is the chariot?’

And still he answered no.

‘Then thus, ask as I may, I can discover no chariot. Chariot is a mere empty sound. What then is the chariot you say you came in? It is a falsehood that your Majesty has spoken, an untruth! There is no such thing as a chariot! You are king over all India, a mighty monarch. Of whom then are you afraid that you speak untruth? And he called upon the Yonakas and the brethren to witness, saying: ‘Milinda the king here has said that he came by carriage. But when asked in that case to explain what the carriage was, he is unable to establish what he averred. Is it, forsooth, possible to approve him in that?’

When he had thus spoken the five hundred Yonakas shouted their applause, and said to the king: Now let your Majesty get out of that if you can?’

And Milinda the king replied to Nāgasena, and said: ‘I have spoken no untruth, reverend Sir. It is on account of its having all these things—the pole, and the axle, the wheels, and the framework, the ropes, the yoke, the spokes, and the goad—that it comes under the generally understood term, the designation in common use, of “chariot.”’

‘Very good! Your Majesty has rightly grasped the meaning of “chariot.” And just even so it is on account of all those things you questioned me about—PTS vp Pali 28 The thirty-two kinds of organic matter in a human body, and the five constituent elements of being—that I come under the generally understood term, the designation in common use, of “Nāgasena.” PTS vp En 45 For it was said, Sire, by our Sister Vajirā in the presence of the Blessed One:

“‘Just as it is by the condition precedent
Of the co-existence of its various parts
That the word ‘chariot’ is used,
Just so is it that when the Skandhas
Are there we talk of a ‘being.’”’

‘Most wonderful, Nāgasena, and most strange. Well has the puzzle put to you, most difficult though it was, been solved. Were the Buddha himself here he would approve your answer. Well done, well done, Nāgasena!’

1. Paññattipañha
1. Paññattipañha
1. Paññattipañha

Atha kho milindo rājā yenāyasmā nāgaseno tenupasaṅkami, upasaṅkamitvā āyasmatā nāgasenena saddhiṁ sammodi, sammodanīyaṁ kathaṁ sāraṇīyaṁ vītisāretvā ekamantaṁ nisīdi. Āyasmāpi kho nāgaseno paṭisammodanīyeneva milindassa rañño cittaṁ ārādhesi. *paṭisammodanīyeneva → paṭisammodi. teneva (bj); paṭisammodiyeva (maku); yen'eva (pts-vp-pli1)

Atha kho milindo rājā yenāyasmā nāgaseno tenupasaṅkami, upasaṅkamitvā āyasmatā nāgasenena saddhiṁ sammodi, sammodanīyaṁ kathaṁ sāraṇīyaṁ vītisāretvā ekamantaṁ nisīdi.
Āyasmāpi kho nāgaseno paṭisammodanīyeneva milindassa rañño cittaṁ ārādhesi. *paṭisammodanīyeneva → paṭisammodi. teneva (bj); paṭisammodiyeva (maku); yen'eva (pts-vp-pli1)

Atha kho milindo rājā yenāyasmā nāgaseno tenupasaṅkami, upasaṅkamitvā āyasmatā nāgasenena saddhiṁ sammodi, sammodanīyaṁ kathaṁ sāraṇīyaṁ vītisāretvā ekamantaṁ nisīdi. Āyasmāpi kho nāgaseno paṭisammodanīyeneva milindassa rañño cittaṁ ārādhesi. *paṭisammodanīyeneva → paṭisammodi. teneva (bj); paṭisammodiyeva (maku); yen'eva (pts-vp-pli1)

Atha kho milindo rājā āyasmantaṁ nāgasenaṁ etadavoca—“kathaṁ bhadanto ñāyati, kinnāmosi, bhante”ti? “‘Nāgaseno’ti kho ahaṁ, mahārāja, ñāyāmi, ‘nāgaseno’ti kho maṁ, mahārāja, sabrahmacārī samudācaranti, api ca mātāpitaro nāmaṁ karonti ‘nāgaseno’ti vā ‘sūraseno’ti vā ‘vīraseno’ti vā ‘sīhaseno’ti vā, api ca kho, mahārāja, saṅkhā samaññā paññatti vohāro nāmamattaṁ yadidaṁ nāgasenoti, na hettha puggalo upalabbhatī”ti.

Atha kho milindo rājā āyasmantaṁ nāgasenaṁ etadavoca—
“kathaṁ bhadanto ñāyati, kinnāmosi, bhante”ti?
“‘Nāgaseno’ti kho ahaṁ, mahārāja, ñāyāmi, ‘nāgaseno’ti kho maṁ, mahārāja, sabrahmacārī samudācaranti, api ca mātāpitaro nāmaṁ karonti ‘nāgaseno’ti vā ‘sūraseno’ti vā ‘vīraseno’ti vā ‘sīhaseno’ti vā, api ca kho, mahārāja, saṅkhā samaññā paññatti vohāro nāmamattaṁ yadidaṁ nāgasenoti, na hettha puggalo upalabbhatī”ti.

Atha kho milindo rājā āyasmantaṁ nāgasenaṁ etadavoca—“kathaṁ bhadanto ñāyati, kinnāmosi, bhante”ti? “‘Nāgaseno’ti kho ahaṁ, mahārāja, ñāyāmi, ‘nāgaseno’ti kho maṁ, mahārāja, sabrahmacārī samudācaranti, api ca mātāpitaro nāmaṁ karonti ‘nāgaseno’ti vā ‘sūraseno’ti vā ‘vīraseno’ti vā ‘sīhaseno’ti vā, api ca kho, mahārāja, saṅkhā samaññā paññatti vohāro nāmamattaṁ yadidaṁ nāgasenoti, na hettha puggalo upalabbhatī”ti.

Atha kho milindo rājā evamāha—“suṇantu me bhonto pañcasatā yonakā asītisahassā ca bhikkhū, ayaṁ nāgaseno evamāha—‘na hettha puggalo upalabbhatī’ti, kallaṁ nu kho tadabhinanditun”ti. Atha kho milindo rājā āyasmantaṁ nāgasenaṁ etadavoca—“sace, bhante nāgasena, puggalo nūpalabbhati, ko carahi tumhākaṁ cīvarapiṇḍapātasenāsanagilānappaccayabhesajjaparikkhāraṁ deti, ko taṁ paribhuñjati, ko sīlaṁ rakkhati, ko bhāvanamanuyuñjati, ko maggaphalanibbānāni sacchikaroti, ko pāṇaṁ hanati, ko adinnaṁ ādiyati, ko kāmesumicchācāraṁ carati, ko musā bhaṇati, ko majjaṁ pivati, ko pañcānantariyakammaṁ karoti, tasmā natthi kusalaṁ, natthi akusalaṁ, natthi kusalākusalānaṁ kammānaṁ kattā vā kāretā vā, natthi sukatadukkaṭānaṁ kammānaṁ phalaṁ vipāko, sace, bhante nāgasena, yo tumhe māreti, natthi tassāpi pāṇātipāto, tumhākampi, bhante nāgasena, natthi ācariyo, natthi upajjhāyo, natthi upasampadā. ‘Nāgasenoti maṁ, mahārāja, sabrahmacārī samudācarantī’ti yaṁ vadesi, katamo ettha nāgaseno? Kiṁ nu kho, bhante, kesā nāgaseno”ti? “Na hi, mahārājā”ti. “Lomā nāgaseno”ti? “Na hi, mahārājā”ti. “Nakhā …pe… dantā … taco … maṁsaṁ … nhāru … aṭṭhi … aṭṭhimiñjaṁ … vakkaṁ … hadayaṁ … yakanaṁ … kilomakaṁ … pihakaṁ … papphāsaṁ … antaṁ … antaguṇaṁ … udariyaṁ … karīsaṁ … pittaṁ … semhaṁ … pubbo … lohitaṁ … sedo … medo … assu … vasā … kheḷo … siṅghāṇikā … lasikā … muttaṁ …pe… matthake matthaluṅgaṁ nāgaseno”ti? “Na hi, mahārājā”ti. “Kiṁ nu kho, bhante, rūpaṁ nāgaseno”ti? “Na hi, mahārājā”ti. “Vedanā nāgaseno”ti? “Na hi, mahārājā”ti. “Saññā nāgaseno”ti? “Na hi, mahārājā”ti. “Saṅkhārā nāgaseno”ti? “Na hi, mahārājā”ti. “Viññāṇaṁ nāgaseno”ti? “Na hi, mahārājā”ti. “Kiṁ pana, bhante, rūpavedanāsaññāsaṅkhāraviññāṇaṁ nāgaseno”ti? “Na hi, mahārājā”ti. “Kiṁ pana, bhante, aññatra rūpavedanāsaññāsaṅkhāraviññāṇaṁ nāgaseno”ti? “Na hi, mahārājā”ti. “Tamahaṁ, bhante, pucchanto pucchanto na passāmi nāgasenaṁ. Nāgasenasaddoyeva nu kho, bhante, nāgaseno”ti? “Na hi, mahārājā”ti. “Ko panettha nāgaseno, alikaṁ tvaṁ, bhante, bhāsasi musāvādaṁ, natthi nāgaseno”ti.

Atha kho milindo rājā evamāha—
“suṇantu me bhonto pañcasatā yonakā asītisahassā ca bhikkhū, ayaṁ nāgaseno evamāha—
‘na hettha puggalo upalabbhatī’ti, kallaṁ nu kho tadabhinanditun”ti.
Atha kho milindo rājā āyasmantaṁ nāgasenaṁ etadavoca—
“sace, bhante nāgasena, puggalo nūpalabbhati, ko carahi tumhākaṁ cīvarapiṇḍapātasenāsanagilānappaccayabhesajjaparikkhāraṁ deti, ko taṁ paribhuñjati, ko sīlaṁ rakkhati, ko bhāvanamanuyuñjati, ko maggaphalanibbānāni sacchikaroti, ko pāṇaṁ hanati, ko adinnaṁ ādiyati, ko kāmesumicchācāraṁ carati, ko musā bhaṇati, ko majjaṁ pivati, ko pañcānantariyakammaṁ karoti, tasmā natthi kusalaṁ, natthi akusalaṁ, natthi kusalākusalānaṁ kammānaṁ kattā vā kāretā vā, natthi sukatadukkaṭānaṁ kammānaṁ phalaṁ vipāko, sace, bhante nāgasena, yo tumhe māreti, natthi tassāpi pāṇātipāto, tumhākampi, bhante nāgasena, natthi ācariyo, natthi upajjhāyo, natthi upasampadā.
‘Nāgasenoti maṁ, mahārāja, sabrahmacārī samudācarantī’ti yaṁ vadesi, katamo ettha nāgaseno?
Kiṁ nu kho, bhante, kesā nāgaseno”ti?
“Na hi, mahārājā”ti.
“Lomā nāgaseno”ti?
“Na hi, mahārājā”ti.
“Nakhā …pe…
dantā …
taco …
maṁsaṁ …
nhāru …
aṭṭhi …
aṭṭhimiñjaṁ …
vakkaṁ …
hadayaṁ …
yakanaṁ …
kilomakaṁ …
pihakaṁ …
papphāsaṁ …
antaṁ …
antaguṇaṁ …
udariyaṁ …
karīsaṁ …
pittaṁ …
semhaṁ …
pubbo …
lohitaṁ …
sedo …
medo …
assu …
vasā …
kheḷo …
siṅghāṇikā …
lasikā …
muttaṁ …pe…
matthake matthaluṅgaṁ nāgaseno”ti?
“Na hi, mahārājā”ti.
“Kiṁ nu kho, bhante, rūpaṁ nāgaseno”ti?
“Na hi, mahārājā”ti.
“Vedanā nāgaseno”ti?
“Na hi, mahārājā”ti.
“Saññā nāgaseno”ti?
“Na hi, mahārājā”ti.
“Saṅkhārā nāgaseno”ti?
“Na hi, mahārājā”ti.
“Viññāṇaṁ nāgaseno”ti?
“Na hi, mahārājā”ti.
“Kiṁ pana, bhante, rūpavedanāsaññāsaṅkhāraviññāṇaṁ nāgaseno”ti?
“Na hi, mahārājā”ti.
“Kiṁ pana, bhante, aññatra rūpavedanāsaññāsaṅkhāraviññāṇaṁ nāgaseno”ti?
“Na hi, mahārājā”ti.
“Tamahaṁ, bhante, pucchanto pucchanto na passāmi nāgasenaṁ.
Nāgasenasaddoyeva nu kho, bhante, nāgaseno”ti?
“Na hi, mahārājā”ti.
“Ko panettha nāgaseno, alikaṁ tvaṁ, bhante, bhāsasi musāvādaṁ, natthi nāgaseno”ti.

Atha kho milindo rājā evamāha—“suṇantu me bhonto pañcasatā yonakā asītisahassā ca bhikkhū, ayaṁ nāgaseno evamāha—‘na hettha puggalo upalabbhatī’ti, kallaṁ nu kho tadabhinanditun”ti. Atha kho milindo rājā āyasmantaṁ nāgasenaṁ etadavoca—“sace, bhante nāgasena, puggalo nūpalabbhati, ko carahi tumhākaṁ cīvarapiṇḍapātasenāsanagilānappaccayabhesajjaparikkhāraṁ deti, ko taṁ paribhuñjati, ko sīlaṁ rakkhati, ko bhāvanamanuyuñjati, ko maggaphalanibbānāni sacchikaroti, ko pāṇaṁ hanati, ko adinnaṁ ādiyati, ko kāmesumicchācāraṁ carati, ko musā bhaṇati, ko majjaṁ pivati, ko pañcānantariyakammaṁ karoti, tasmā natthi kusalaṁ, natthi akusalaṁ, natthi kusalākusalānaṁ kammānaṁ kattā vā kāretā vā, natthi sukatadukkaṭānaṁ kammānaṁ phalaṁ vipāko, sace, bhante nāgasena, yo tumhe māreti, natthi tassāpi pāṇātipāto, tumhākampi, bhante nāgasena, natthi ācariyo, natthi upajjhāyo, natthi upasampadā. ‘Nāgasenoti maṁ, mahārāja, sabrahmacārī samudācarantī’ti yaṁ vadesi, katamo ettha nāgaseno? Kiṁ nu kho, bhante, kesā nāgaseno”ti? “Na hi, mahārājā”ti. “Lomā nāgaseno”ti? “Na hi, mahārājā”ti. “Nakhā …pe… dantā … taco … maṁsaṁ … nhāru … aṭṭhi … aṭṭhimiñjaṁ … vakkaṁ … hadayaṁ … yakanaṁ … kilomakaṁ … pihakaṁ … papphāsaṁ … antaṁ … antaguṇaṁ … udariyaṁ … karīsaṁ … pittaṁ … semhaṁ … pubbo … lohitaṁ … sedo … medo … assu … vasā … kheḷo … siṅghāṇikā … lasikā … muttaṁ …pe… matthake matthaluṅgaṁ nāgaseno”ti? “Na hi, mahārājā”ti. “Kiṁ nu kho, bhante, rūpaṁ nāgaseno”ti? “Na hi, mahārājā”ti. “Vedanā nāgaseno”ti? “Na hi, mahārājā”ti. “Saññā nāgaseno”ti? “Na hi, mahārājā”ti. “Saṅkhārā nāgaseno”ti? “Na hi, mahārājā”ti. “Viññāṇaṁ nāgaseno”ti? “Na hi, mahārājā”ti. “Kiṁ pana, bhante, rūpavedanāsaññāsaṅkhāraviññāṇaṁ nāgaseno”ti? “Na hi, mahārājā”ti. “Kiṁ pana, bhante, aññatra rūpavedanāsaññāsaṅkhāraviññāṇaṁ nāgaseno”ti? “Na hi, mahārājā”ti. “Tamahaṁ, bhante, pucchanto pucchanto na passāmi nāgasenaṁ. Nāgasenasaddoyeva nu kho, bhante, nāgaseno”ti? “Na hi, mahārājā”ti. “Ko panettha nāgaseno, alikaṁ tvaṁ, bhante, bhāsasi musāvādaṁ, natthi nāgaseno”ti.

Atha kho āyasmā nāgaseno milindaṁ rājānaṁ etadavoca—“tvaṁ khosi, mahārāja, khattiyasukhumālo accantasukhumālo, tassa te, mahārāja, majjhanhikasamayaṁ tattāya bhūmiyā uṇhāya vālikāya kharāya sakkharakathalikāya madditvā pādenāgacchantassa pādā rujjanti, kāyo kilamati, cittaṁ upahaññati, dukkhasahagataṁ kāyaviññāṇaṁ uppajjati, kiṁ nu kho tvaṁ pādenāgatosi, udāhu vāhanenā”ti? *kharāya sakkharakathalikāya → kharā sakkharakaṭhalavālikā (bj, pts-vp-pli1)“Nāhaṁ, bhante, pādenāgacchāmi, rathenāhaṁ āgatosmī”ti. “Sace tvaṁ, mahārāja, rathenāgatosi, rathaṁ me ārocehi, kiṁ nu kho, mahārāja, īsā ratho”ti? “Na hi, bhante”ti. “Akkho ratho”ti? “Na hi, bhante”ti. “Cakkāni ratho”ti? “Na hi, bhante”ti. “Rathapañjaraṁ ratho”ti? “Na hi, bhante”ti. “Rathadaṇḍako ratho”ti? “Na hi, bhante”ti. “Yugaṁ ratho”ti? “Na hi, bhante”ti. “Rasmiyo ratho”ti? “Na hi, bhante”ti. “Patodalaṭṭhi ratho”ti? “Na hi, bhante”ti. “Kiṁ nu kho, mahārāja, īsāakkhacakkarathapañjararathadaṇḍayugarasmipatodā ratho”ti? “Na hi, bhante”ti. “Kiṁ pana, mahārāja, aññatra īsāakkhacakkarathapañjararathadaṇḍayugarasmipatodā ratho”ti? “Na hi, bhante”ti. “Tamahaṁ, mahārāja, pucchanto pucchanto na passāmi rathaṁ. Rathasaddoyeva nu kho, mahārāja, ratho”ti? “Na hi, bhante”ti. “Ko panettha ratho, alikaṁ tvaṁ, mahārāja, bhāsasi musāvādaṁ, natthi ratho, tvaṁsi, mahārāja, sakalajambudīpe aggarājā, kassa pana tvaṁ bhāyitvā musāvādaṁ bhāsasi, suṇantu me bhonto pañcasatā yonakā asītisahassā ca bhikkhū, ayaṁ milindo rājā evamāha—‘rathenāhaṁ āgatosmī’ti, sace tvaṁ, mahārāja, rathenāgatosi, ‘rathaṁ me ārocehī’ti vutto samāno rathaṁ na sampādeti, kallaṁ nu kho tadabhinanditun”ti.

Atha kho āyasmā nāgaseno milindaṁ rājānaṁ etadavoca—
“tvaṁ khosi, mahārāja, khattiyasukhumālo accantasukhumālo, tassa te, mahārāja, majjhanhikasamayaṁ tattāya bhūmiyā uṇhāya vālikāya kharāya sakkharakathalikāya madditvā pādenāgacchantassa pādā rujjanti, kāyo kilamati, cittaṁ upahaññati, dukkhasahagataṁ kāyaviññāṇaṁ uppajjati, kiṁ nu kho tvaṁ pādenāgatosi, udāhu vāhanenā”ti? *kharāya sakkharakathalikāya → kharā sakkharakaṭhalavālikā (bj, pts-vp-pli1)
“Nāhaṁ, bhante, pādenāgacchāmi, rathenāhaṁ āgatosmī”ti.
“Sace tvaṁ, mahārāja, rathenāgatosi, rathaṁ me ārocehi, kiṁ nu kho, mahārāja, īsā ratho”ti?
“Na hi, bhante”ti.
“Akkho ratho”ti?
“Na hi, bhante”ti.
“Cakkāni ratho”ti?
“Na hi, bhante”ti.
“Rathapañjaraṁ ratho”ti?
“Na hi, bhante”ti.
“Rathadaṇḍako ratho”ti?
“Na hi, bhante”ti.
“Yugaṁ ratho”ti?
“Na hi, bhante”ti.
“Rasmiyo ratho”ti?
“Na hi, bhante”ti.
“Patodalaṭṭhi ratho”ti?
“Na hi, bhante”ti.
“Kiṁ nu kho, mahārāja, īsāakkhacakkarathapañjararathadaṇḍayugarasmipatodā ratho”ti?
“Na hi, bhante”ti.
“Kiṁ pana, mahārāja, aññatra īsāakkhacakkarathapañjararathadaṇḍayugarasmipatodā ratho”ti?
“Na hi, bhante”ti.
“Tamahaṁ, mahārāja, pucchanto pucchanto na passāmi rathaṁ.
Rathasaddoyeva nu kho, mahārāja, ratho”ti?
“Na hi, bhante”ti.
“Ko panettha ratho, alikaṁ tvaṁ, mahārāja, bhāsasi musāvādaṁ, natthi ratho, tvaṁsi, mahārāja, sakalajambudīpe aggarājā, kassa pana tvaṁ bhāyitvā musāvādaṁ bhāsasi, suṇantu me bhonto pañcasatā yonakā asītisahassā ca bhikkhū, ayaṁ milindo rājā evamāha—
‘rathenāhaṁ āgatosmī’ti, sace tvaṁ, mahārāja, rathenāgatosi, ‘rathaṁ me ārocehī’ti vutto samāno rathaṁ na sampādeti, kallaṁ nu kho tadabhinanditun”ti.

Atha kho āyasmā nāgaseno milindaṁ rājānaṁ etadavoca—“tvaṁ khosi, mahārāja, khattiyasukhumālo accantasukhumālo, tassa te, mahārāja, majjhanhikasamayaṁ tattāya bhūmiyā uṇhāya vālikāya kharāya sakkharakathalikāya madditvā pādenāgacchantassa pādā rujjanti, kāyo kilamati, cittaṁ upahaññati, dukkhasahagataṁ kāyaviññāṇaṁ uppajjati, kiṁ nu kho tvaṁ pādenāgatosi, udāhu vāhanenā”ti? *kharāya sakkharakathalikāya → kharā sakkharakaṭhalavālikā (bj, pts-vp-pli1)“Nāhaṁ, bhante, pādenāgacchāmi, rathenāhaṁ āgatosmī”ti. “Sace tvaṁ, mahārāja, rathenāgatosi, rathaṁ me ārocehi, kiṁ nu kho, mahārāja, īsā ratho”ti? “Na hi, bhante”ti. “Akkho ratho”ti? “Na hi, bhante”ti. “Cakkāni ratho”ti? “Na hi, bhante”ti. “Rathapañjaraṁ ratho”ti? “Na hi, bhante”ti. “Rathadaṇḍako ratho”ti? “Na hi, bhante”ti. “Yugaṁ ratho”ti? “Na hi, bhante”ti. “Rasmiyo ratho”ti? “Na hi, bhante”ti. “Patodalaṭṭhi ratho”ti? “Na hi, bhante”ti. “Kiṁ nu kho, mahārāja, īsāakkhacakkarathapañjararathadaṇḍayugarasmipatodā ratho”ti? “Na hi, bhante”ti. “Kiṁ pana, mahārāja, aññatra īsāakkhacakkarathapañjararathadaṇḍayugarasmipatodā ratho”ti? “Na hi, bhante”ti. “Tamahaṁ, mahārāja, pucchanto pucchanto na passāmi rathaṁ. Rathasaddoyeva nu kho, mahārāja, ratho”ti? “Na hi, bhante”ti. “Ko panettha ratho, alikaṁ tvaṁ, mahārāja, bhāsasi musāvādaṁ, natthi ratho, tvaṁsi, mahārāja, sakalajambudīpe aggarājā, kassa pana tvaṁ bhāyitvā musāvādaṁ bhāsasi, suṇantu me bhonto pañcasatā yonakā asītisahassā ca bhikkhū, ayaṁ milindo rājā evamāha—‘rathenāhaṁ āgatosmī’ti, sace tvaṁ, mahārāja, rathenāgatosi, ‘rathaṁ me ārocehī’ti vutto samāno rathaṁ na sampādeti, kallaṁ nu kho tadabhinanditun”ti.

Evaṁ vutte, pañcasatā yonakā āyasmato nāgasenassa sādhukāraṁ datvā milindaṁ rājānaṁ etadavocuṁ—“idāni kho tvaṁ, mahārāja, sakkonto bhāsassū”ti.

Evaṁ vutte, pañcasatā yonakā āyasmato nāgasenassa sādhukāraṁ datvā milindaṁ rājānaṁ etadavocuṁ—
“idāni kho tvaṁ, mahārāja, sakkonto bhāsassū”ti.

Evaṁ vutte, pañcasatā yonakā āyasmato nāgasenassa sādhukāraṁ datvā milindaṁ rājānaṁ etadavocuṁ—“idāni kho tvaṁ, mahārāja, sakkonto bhāsassū”ti.

Atha kho milindo rājā āyasmantaṁ nāgasenaṁ etadavoca—“nāhaṁ, bhante nāgasena, musā bhaṇāmi, īsañca paṭicca akkhañca paṭicca cakkāni ca paṭicca rathapañjarañca paṭicca rathadaṇḍakañca paṭicca ‘ratho’ti saṅkhā samaññā paññatti vohāro nāmamattaṁ pavattatī”ti.

Atha kho milindo rājā āyasmantaṁ nāgasenaṁ etadavoca—
“nāhaṁ, bhante nāgasena, musā bhaṇāmi, īsañca paṭicca akkhañca paṭicca cakkāni ca paṭicca rathapañjarañca paṭicca rathadaṇḍakañca paṭicca ‘ratho’ti saṅkhā samaññā paññatti vohāro nāmamattaṁ pavattatī”ti.

Atha kho milindo rājā āyasmantaṁ nāgasenaṁ etadavoca—“nāhaṁ, bhante nāgasena, musā bhaṇāmi, īsañca paṭicca akkhañca paṭicca cakkāni ca paṭicca rathapañjarañca paṭicca rathadaṇḍakañca paṭicca ‘ratho’ti saṅkhā samaññā paññatti vohāro nāmamattaṁ pavattatī”ti.

“Sādhu kho tvaṁ, mahārāja, rathaṁ jānāsi; evameva kho, mahārāja, mayhampi kese ca paṭicca lome ca paṭicca …pe… matthake matthaluṅgañca paṭicca rūpañca paṭicca vedanañca paṭicca saññañca paṭicca saṅkhāre ca paṭicca viññāṇañca paṭicca ‘nāgaseno’ti saṅkhā samaññā paññatti vohāro nāmamattaṁ pavattati, paramatthato panettha puggalo nūpalabbhati. Bhāsitampetaṁ, mahārāja, vajirāya bhikkhuniyā bhagavato sammukhā—

“Sādhu kho tvaṁ, mahārāja, rathaṁ jānāsi;
evameva kho, mahārāja, mayhampi kese ca paṭicca lome ca paṭicca …pe… matthake matthaluṅgañca paṭicca rūpañca paṭicca vedanañca paṭicca saññañca paṭicca saṅkhāre ca paṭicca viññāṇañca paṭicca ‘nāgaseno’ti saṅkhā samaññā paññatti vohāro nāmamattaṁ pavattati, paramatthato panettha puggalo nūpalabbhati.
Bhāsitampetaṁ, mahārāja, vajirāya bhikkhuniyā bhagavato sammukhā—

“Sādhu kho tvaṁ, mahārāja, rathaṁ jānāsi; evameva kho, mahārāja, mayhampi kese ca paṭicca lome ca paṭicca …pe… matthake matthaluṅgañca paṭicca rūpañca paṭicca vedanañca paṭicca saññañca paṭicca saṅkhāre ca paṭicca viññāṇañca paṭicca ‘nāgaseno’ti saṅkhā samaññā paññatti vohāro nāmamattaṁ pavattati, paramatthato panettha puggalo nūpalabbhati. Bhāsitampetaṁ, mahārāja, vajirāya bhikkhuniyā bhagavato sammukhā—

‘Yathā hi aṅgasambhārā, hoti saddo ratho iti; Evaṁ khandhesu santesu, hoti “satto”ti sammutī’”ti.

‘Yathā hi aṅgasambhārā,
hoti saddo ratho iti;
Evaṁ khandhesu santesu,
hoti “satto”ti sammutī’”ti.

‘Yathā hi aṅgasambhārā, hoti saddo ratho iti; Evaṁ khandhesu santesu, hoti “satto”ti sammutī’”ti.

“Acchariyaṁ, bhante nāgasena, abbhutaṁ, bhante nāgasena, aticitrāni pañhapaṭibhānāni visajjitāni, yadi buddho tiṭṭheyya sādhukāraṁ dadeyya, sādhu sādhu, nāgasena, aticitrāni pañhapaṭibhānāni visajjitānī”ti.

“Acchariyaṁ, bhante nāgasena, abbhutaṁ, bhante nāgasena, aticitrāni pañhapaṭibhānāni visajjitāni, yadi buddho tiṭṭheyya sādhukāraṁ dadeyya, sādhu sādhu, nāgasena, aticitrāni pañhapaṭibhānāni visajjitānī”ti.

“Acchariyaṁ, bhante nāgasena, abbhutaṁ, bhante nāgasena, aticitrāni pañhapaṭibhānāni visajjitāni, yadi buddho tiṭṭheyya sādhukāraṁ dadeyya, sādhu sādhu, nāgasena, aticitrāni pañhapaṭibhānāni visajjitānī”ti.

Paññattipañho paṭhamo. *Paññattipañho → nāmapañho (maku)

Paññattipañho paṭhamo. *Paññattipañho → nāmapañho (maku)

Paññattipañho paṭhamo. *Paññattipañho → nāmapañho (maku)

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Texto original en pali: Mahāsaṅgīti Tipiṭaka Buddhavasse 2500.

Datos pali, segmentación, variantes y metadatos: importados desde SuttaCentral.

Traducción al inglés: T W Rhys Davids.

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