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3. Dismissal

The Dismissal Of the Elders

Khuddaka Nikāya
3. Paṇāmitavagga
Bhikkhupaṇāmitapañha
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3. Dismissal
The Dismissal Of the Elders
Khuddaka Nikāya
3. Paṇāmitavagga
Bhikkhupaṇāmitapañha
Ruta suttaMil 5.3.12Sutta Piṭaka›Khuddaka Nikāya›Milindapañha›5. Meṇḍakapañha›3. Paṇāmitavagga›Bhikkhupaṇāmitapañha
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Questions of King Milinda
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Milindapañha
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PTS cs 38 ‘Venerable Nāgasena, it was said by the Blessed One:

“Anger I harbour not, nor sulkiness.”

But on the other hand the Tathāgata dismissed the Elders Sāriputta and Moggallāna, together with the brethren who formed their company of disciples. PTS vp En 258 How now, Nāgasena, PTS vp Pali 187 was it in anger that the Tathāgata sent away the disciples, or was it in pleasure? Be so good as to explain to me how this was. For if, Nāgasena, he dismissed them in anger, then had the Tathāgata not subdued all liability to anger in himself. But if it was in pleasure, then he did so ignorantly, and without due cause. This too is a double-edged problem now put to you, and you have to solve it.’

PTS cs 39 ‘The Blessed One did say, O king:

“Anger I harbour not, nor sulkiness.”

And he did dismiss the Elders with their disciples. But that was not in anger. Suppose, O king, that a man were to stumble against some root, or stake, or stone, or potsherd, or on uneven ground, and fall upon the broad earth. Would it be that the broad earth, angry with him, had made him fall?’

‘No, indeed, Sir. The broad earth feels neither anger against any man nor delight. It is altogether PTS vp En 259 free from ill-will, neither needs it to fawn on any one. It would be by reason of his own carelessness that that man stumbled and fell.’

‘Just so, great king, do the Tathāgatas experience neither anger against, nor pride in any man. Altogether free are the Tathāgatas, the Arahat-Buddhas, alike from ill-will, and from the need to fawn on any one. And those disciples were sent away by reason of what they themselves had done. So also the great ocean endures not association with any corpse. Any dead body there may be in it that does it promptly cast up, and leave high and dry on the shore. But is it in anger that it casts it up?’

‘Certainly not, Sir. The broad ocean feels neither anger against any, nor does it take delight in any. It seeks not in the least to please any, and is altogether free from the desire to harm.’

‘Just so, great king, do the Tathāgatas feel neither anger against any man, nor do they place their faith in any man. The Tathāgatas, the Arahat-Buddhas, are quite set free from the desire either to gain the goodwill of any man, or to do him harm, And it was by reason of what they themselves had done that those disciples were sent away. Just as a man, great king, who stumbles against the ground is made to fall, so is he who stumbles in the excellent teaching of the Conqueror made to go away. just as a corpse in the great ocean is cast up, PTS vp Pali 188 so is he who stumbles in the excellent teaching of the Conqueror sent away. And when the Tathāgata sent those disciples away it was for their good, and their PTS vp En 260 gain, their happiness, and their purification, and in order that in that way they should be delivered from birth, old age, disease, and death.’

‘Very good, Nāgasena! That is so, and I accept it as you say.’

Here ends the problem as to the dismissal of the Elders.

Here ends the Third Chapter.

12. Bhikkhupaṇāmitapañha
12. Bhikkhupaṇāmitapañha
12. Bhikkhupaṇāmitapañha

“Bhante nāgasena, bhāsitampetaṁ bhagavatā—‘akkodhano vigatakhilohamasmī’ti, puna ca tathāgato there sāriputtamoggallāne saparise paṇāmesi, kiṁ nu kho, bhante nāgasena, tathāgato kupito parisaṁ paṇāmesi, udāhu tuṭṭho paṇāmesi, etaṁ tāva jānāhi imaṁ nāmāti? Yadi, bhante nāgasena, kupito parisaṁ paṇāmesi, tena hi tathāgatassa kodho appaṭivattito, yadi tuṭṭho paṇāmesi, tena hi avatthusmiṁ ajānantena paṇāmitā. Ayampi ubhato koṭiko pañho tavānuppatto, so tayā nibbāhitabbo”ti.

“Bhante nāgasena, bhāsitampetaṁ bhagavatā—
‘akkodhano vigatakhilohamasmī’ti, puna ca tathāgato there sāriputtamoggallāne saparise paṇāmesi, kiṁ nu kho, bhante nāgasena, tathāgato kupito parisaṁ paṇāmesi, udāhu tuṭṭho paṇāmesi, etaṁ tāva jānāhi imaṁ nāmāti?
Yadi, bhante nāgasena, kupito parisaṁ paṇāmesi, tena hi tathāgatassa kodho appaṭivattito, yadi tuṭṭho paṇāmesi, tena hi avatthusmiṁ ajānantena paṇāmitā.
Ayampi ubhato koṭiko pañho tavānuppatto, so tayā nibbāhitabbo”ti.

“Bhante nāgasena, bhāsitampetaṁ bhagavatā—‘akkodhano vigatakhilohamasmī’ti, puna ca tathāgato there sāriputtamoggallāne saparise paṇāmesi, kiṁ nu kho, bhante nāgasena, tathāgato kupito parisaṁ paṇāmesi, udāhu tuṭṭho paṇāmesi, etaṁ tāva jānāhi imaṁ nāmāti? Yadi, bhante nāgasena, kupito parisaṁ paṇāmesi, tena hi tathāgatassa kodho appaṭivattito, yadi tuṭṭho paṇāmesi, tena hi avatthusmiṁ ajānantena paṇāmitā. Ayampi ubhato koṭiko pañho tavānuppatto, so tayā nibbāhitabbo”ti.

“Bhāsitampetaṁ, mahārāja, bhagavatā—‘akkodhano vigatakhilohamasmī’ti, paṇāmitā ca therā sāriputtamoggallānā saparisā, tañca pana na kopena. Idha, mahārāja, kocideva puriso mahāpathaviyā mūle vā khāṇuke vā pāsāṇe vā kaṭhale vā visame vā bhūmibhāge khalitvā patati, api nu kho, mahārāja, mahāpathavī kupitā taṁ pātetī”ti? “Na hi, bhante, natthi mahāpathaviyā kopo vā pasādo vā, anunayappaṭighavippamuttā mahāpathavī, sayameva so alaso khalitvā patito”ti. “Evameva kho, mahārāja, natthi tathāgatānaṁ kopo vā pasādo vā, anunayappaṭighavippamuttā tathāgatā arahanto sammāsambuddhā, atha kho sayaṁ kateneva te attano aparādhena paṇāmitā.

“Bhāsitampetaṁ, mahārāja, bhagavatā—
‘akkodhano vigatakhilohamasmī’ti, paṇāmitā ca therā sāriputtamoggallānā saparisā, tañca pana na kopena.
Idha, mahārāja, kocideva puriso mahāpathaviyā mūle vā khāṇuke vā pāsāṇe vā kaṭhale vā visame vā bhūmibhāge khalitvā patati, api nu kho, mahārāja, mahāpathavī kupitā taṁ pātetī”ti?
“Na hi, bhante, natthi mahāpathaviyā kopo vā pasādo vā, anunayappaṭighavippamuttā mahāpathavī, sayameva so alaso khalitvā patito”ti.
“Evameva kho, mahārāja, natthi tathāgatānaṁ kopo vā pasādo vā, anunayappaṭighavippamuttā tathāgatā arahanto sammāsambuddhā, atha kho sayaṁ kateneva te attano aparādhena paṇāmitā.

“Bhāsitampetaṁ, mahārāja, bhagavatā—‘akkodhano vigatakhilohamasmī’ti, paṇāmitā ca therā sāriputtamoggallānā saparisā, tañca pana na kopena. Idha, mahārāja, kocideva puriso mahāpathaviyā mūle vā khāṇuke vā pāsāṇe vā kaṭhale vā visame vā bhūmibhāge khalitvā patati, api nu kho, mahārāja, mahāpathavī kupitā taṁ pātetī”ti? “Na hi, bhante, natthi mahāpathaviyā kopo vā pasādo vā, anunayappaṭighavippamuttā mahāpathavī, sayameva so alaso khalitvā patito”ti. “Evameva kho, mahārāja, natthi tathāgatānaṁ kopo vā pasādo vā, anunayappaṭighavippamuttā tathāgatā arahanto sammāsambuddhā, atha kho sayaṁ kateneva te attano aparādhena paṇāmitā.

Idha pana, mahārāja, mahāsamuddo na matena kuṇapena saṁvasati, yaṁ hoti mahāsamudde mataṁ kuṇapaṁ, taṁ khippameva nicchubhati thalaṁ ussāreti. Api nu kho, mahārāja, mahāsamuddo kupito taṁ kuṇapaṁ nicchubhatī”ti? “Na hi, bhante, natthi mahāsamuddassa kopo vā pasādo vā, anunayappaṭighavippamutto mahāsamuddo”ti. “Evameva kho, mahārāja, natthi tathāgatānaṁ kopo vā pasādo vā, anunayappaṭighavippamuttā tathāgatā arahanto sammāsambuddhā, atha kho sayaṁ kateneva te attano aparādhena paṇāmitā.

Idha pana, mahārāja, mahāsamuddo na matena kuṇapena saṁvasati, yaṁ hoti mahāsamudde mataṁ kuṇapaṁ, taṁ khippameva nicchubhati thalaṁ ussāreti.
Api nu kho, mahārāja, mahāsamuddo kupito taṁ kuṇapaṁ nicchubhatī”ti?
“Na hi, bhante, natthi mahāsamuddassa kopo vā pasādo vā, anunayappaṭighavippamutto mahāsamuddo”ti.
“Evameva kho, mahārāja, natthi tathāgatānaṁ kopo vā pasādo vā, anunayappaṭighavippamuttā tathāgatā arahanto sammāsambuddhā, atha kho sayaṁ kateneva te attano aparādhena paṇāmitā.

Idha pana, mahārāja, mahāsamuddo na matena kuṇapena saṁvasati, yaṁ hoti mahāsamudde mataṁ kuṇapaṁ, taṁ khippameva nicchubhati thalaṁ ussāreti. Api nu kho, mahārāja, mahāsamuddo kupito taṁ kuṇapaṁ nicchubhatī”ti? “Na hi, bhante, natthi mahāsamuddassa kopo vā pasādo vā, anunayappaṭighavippamutto mahāsamuddo”ti. “Evameva kho, mahārāja, natthi tathāgatānaṁ kopo vā pasādo vā, anunayappaṭighavippamuttā tathāgatā arahanto sammāsambuddhā, atha kho sayaṁ kateneva te attano aparādhena paṇāmitā.

Yathā, mahārāja, pathaviyā khalito patīyati, evaṁ jinasāsanavare khalito paṇāmīyati. Yathā, mahārāja, samudde mataṁ kuṇapaṁ nicchubhīyati, evaṁ jinasāsanavare khalito paṇāmīyati. Yaṁ pana te, mahārāja, tathāgato paṇāmesi, tesaṁ atthakāmo hitakāmo sukhakāmo visuddhikāmo ‘evaṁ ime jātijarābyādhimaraṇehi parimuccissantī’ti—paṇāmesī”ti. “Sādhu, bhante nāgasena, evametaṁ tathā sampaṭicchāmī”ti.

Yathā, mahārāja, pathaviyā khalito patīyati, evaṁ jinasāsanavare khalito paṇāmīyati.
Yathā, mahārāja, samudde mataṁ kuṇapaṁ nicchubhīyati, evaṁ jinasāsanavare khalito paṇāmīyati.
Yaṁ pana te, mahārāja, tathāgato paṇāmesi, tesaṁ atthakāmo hitakāmo sukhakāmo visuddhikāmo ‘evaṁ ime jātijarābyādhimaraṇehi parimuccissantī’ti—
paṇāmesī”ti.
“Sādhu, bhante nāgasena, evametaṁ tathā sampaṭicchāmī”ti.

Yathā, mahārāja, pathaviyā khalito patīyati, evaṁ jinasāsanavare khalito paṇāmīyati. Yathā, mahārāja, samudde mataṁ kuṇapaṁ nicchubhīyati, evaṁ jinasāsanavare khalito paṇāmīyati. Yaṁ pana te, mahārāja, tathāgato paṇāmesi, tesaṁ atthakāmo hitakāmo sukhakāmo visuddhikāmo ‘evaṁ ime jātijarābyādhimaraṇehi parimuccissantī’ti—paṇāmesī”ti. “Sādhu, bhante nāgasena, evametaṁ tathā sampaṭicchāmī”ti.

Bhikkhupaṇāmitapañho dvādasamo. *Bhikkhupaṇāmitapañho → bhikkhupaṇāmanapañho (bj); bhikkhupaṇāmapañho (maku)

Bhikkhupaṇāmitapañho dvādasamo. *Bhikkhupaṇāmitapañho → bhikkhupaṇāmanapañho (bj); bhikkhupaṇāmapañho (maku)

Bhikkhupaṇāmitapañho dvādasamo. *Bhikkhupaṇāmitapañho → bhikkhupaṇāmanapañho (bj); bhikkhupaṇāmapañho (maku)

Paṇāmitavaggo tatiyo.

Paṇāmitavaggo tatiyo.

Paṇāmitavaggo tatiyo.

Imasmiṁ vagge dvādasa pañhā.

Imasmiṁ vagge dvādasa pañhā.

Imasmiṁ vagge dvādasa pañhā.

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Texto original en pali: Mahāsaṅgīti Tipiṭaka Buddhavasse 2500.

Datos pali, segmentación, variantes y metadatos: importados desde SuttaCentral.

Traducción al inglés: T W Rhys Davids.

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