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17. The Chapter on Resentment

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Aṅguttara Nikāya
17. Āghātavagga
Nirodhasutta
Numbered Discourses
17. The Chapter on Resentment
Cessation
Aṅguttara Nikāya
17. Āghātavagga
Nirodhasutta

Udāyī refuses to believe Sāriputta’s description of the achievements of an accomplished meditator. The Buddha dismisses Udāyī’s foolishness, and outlines the reasons senior mendicants should be respected.

Ruta suttaAN 5.166Sutta Piṭaka›Aṅguttara Nikāya›5. Pañcakanipāta›4. Catutthapaṇṇāsaka›17. Āghātavagga›Nirodhasutta
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There Venerable Sāriputta addressed the mendicants:

Tatra kho āyasmā sāriputto bhikkhū āmantesi …pe…

There Venerable Sāriputta addressed the mendicants:
Tatra kho āyasmā sāriputto bhikkhū āmantesi …pe…

There Venerable Sāriputta addressed the mendicants: Tatra kho āyasmā sāriputto bhikkhū āmantesi …pe…

“Reverends, take a mendicant who is accomplished in ethics, immersion, and wisdom. They might enter into and emerge from the cessation of perception and feeling. That is possible. If they don’t reach enlightenment in this very life, then, surpassing the company of gods that consume edible food, they’re reborn in a certain host of mind-made gods. There they might enter into and emerge from the cessation of perception and feeling. That is possible.”

“idhāvuso, bhikkhu sīlasampanno samādhisampanno paññāsampanno saññāvedayitanirodhaṁ samāpajjeyyāpi vuṭṭhaheyyāpi—*samāpajjeyyāpi vuṭṭhaheyyāpi → samāpajjeyyapi vuṭṭhaheyyapi (bj, sya-all, km, pts1ed)atthetaṁ ṭhānaṁ. No ce diṭṭheva dhamme aññaṁ ārādheyya, atikkammeva kabaḷīkārāhārabhakkhānaṁ devānaṁ sahabyataṁ aññataraṁ manomayaṁ kāyaṁ upapanno saññāvedayitanirodhaṁ samāpajjeyyāpi vuṭṭhaheyyāpi—*kabaḷīkārāhārabhakkhānaṁ → kabaḷiṅkārāhārabhakkhānaṁ (bj, cck, km, pts1ed); kabaliṁ kārāhārabhakkhānaṁ (sya1ed, sya2ed)atthetaṁ ṭhānan”ti.

“Reverends, take a mendicant who is accomplished in ethics, immersion, and wisdom. They might enter into and emerge from the cessation of perception and feeling.
“idhāvuso, bhikkhu sīlasampanno samādhisampanno paññāsampanno saññāvedayitanirodhaṁ samāpajjeyyāpi vuṭṭhaheyyāpi—*samāpajjeyyāpi vuṭṭhaheyyāpi → samāpajjeyyapi vuṭṭhaheyyapi (bj, sya-all, km, pts1ed)
That is possible.
atthetaṁ ṭhānaṁ.
If they don’t reach enlightenment in this very life, then, surpassing the company of gods that consume edible food, they’re reborn in a certain host of mind-made gods. There they might enter into and emerge from the cessation of perception and feeling.
No ce diṭṭheva dhamme aññaṁ ārādheyya, atikkammeva kabaḷīkārāhārabhakkhānaṁ devānaṁ sahabyataṁ aññataraṁ manomayaṁ kāyaṁ upapanno saññāvedayitanirodhaṁ samāpajjeyyāpi vuṭṭhaheyyāpi—*kabaḷīkārāhārabhakkhānaṁ → kabaḷiṅkārāhārabhakkhānaṁ (bj, cck, km, pts1ed); kabaliṁ kārāhārabhakkhānaṁ (sya1ed, sya2ed)
That is possible.”
atthetaṁ ṭhānan”ti.

“Reverends, take a mendicant who is accomplished in ethics, immersion, and wisdom. They might enter into and emerge from the cessation of perception and feeling. “idhāvuso, bhikkhu sīlasampanno samādhisampanno paññāsampanno saññāvedayitanirodhaṁ samāpajjeyyāpi vuṭṭhaheyyāpi—*samāpajjeyyāpi vuṭṭhaheyyāpi → samāpajjeyyapi vuṭṭhaheyyapi (bj, sya-all, km, pts1ed)That is possible. atthetaṁ ṭhānaṁ. If they don’t reach enlightenment in this very life, then, surpassing the company of gods that consume edible food, they’re reborn in a certain host of mind-made gods. There they might enter into and emerge from the cessation of perception and feeling. No ce diṭṭheva dhamme aññaṁ ārādheyya, atikkammeva kabaḷīkārāhārabhakkhānaṁ devānaṁ sahabyataṁ aññataraṁ manomayaṁ kāyaṁ upapanno saññāvedayitanirodhaṁ samāpajjeyyāpi vuṭṭhaheyyāpi—*kabaḷīkārāhārabhakkhānaṁ → kabaḷiṅkārāhārabhakkhānaṁ (bj, cck, km, pts1ed); kabaliṁ kārāhārabhakkhānaṁ (sya1ed, sya2ed)That is possible.” atthetaṁ ṭhānan”ti.

When he said this, Venerable Udāyī said to him, “This is not possible, Reverend Sāriputta, it cannot happen!”

Evaṁ vutte, āyasmā udāyī āyasmantaṁ sāriputtaṁ etadavoca: “aṭṭhānaṁ kho etaṁ, āvuso sāriputta, anavakāso yaṁ so bhikkhu atikkammeva kabaḷīkārāhārabhakkhānaṁ devānaṁ sahabyataṁ aññataraṁ manomayaṁ kāyaṁ upapanno saññāvedayitanirodhaṁ samāpajjeyyāpi vuṭṭhaheyyāpi—natthetaṁ ṭhānan”ti.

When he said this, Venerable Udāyī said to him,
Evaṁ vutte, āyasmā udāyī āyasmantaṁ sāriputtaṁ etadavoca:
“This is not possible, Reverend Sāriputta, it cannot happen!”
“aṭṭhānaṁ kho etaṁ, āvuso sāriputta, anavakāso yaṁ so bhikkhu atikkammeva kabaḷīkārāhārabhakkhānaṁ devānaṁ sahabyataṁ aññataraṁ manomayaṁ kāyaṁ upapanno saññāvedayitanirodhaṁ samāpajjeyyāpi vuṭṭhaheyyāpi—
natthetaṁ ṭhānan”ti.

When he said this, Venerable Udāyī said to him, Evaṁ vutte, āyasmā udāyī āyasmantaṁ sāriputtaṁ etadavoca: “This is not possible, Reverend Sāriputta, it cannot happen!” “aṭṭhānaṁ kho etaṁ, āvuso sāriputta, anavakāso yaṁ so bhikkhu atikkammeva kabaḷīkārāhārabhakkhānaṁ devānaṁ sahabyataṁ aññataraṁ manomayaṁ kāyaṁ upapanno saññāvedayitanirodhaṁ samāpajjeyyāpi vuṭṭhaheyyāpi—natthetaṁ ṭhānan”ti.

But for a second … and a third time Sāriputta repeated his statement.

Dutiyampi kho …pe… tatiyampi kho āyasmā sāriputto bhikkhū āmantesi: “idhāvuso, bhikkhu sīlasampanno samādhisampanno paññāsampanno saññāvedayitanirodhaṁ samāpajjeyyāpi vuṭṭhaheyyāpi—atthetaṁ ṭhānaṁ. No ce diṭṭheva dhamme aññaṁ ārādheyya, atikkammeva kabaḷīkārāhārabhakkhānaṁ devānaṁ sahabyataṁ aññataraṁ manomayaṁ kāyaṁ upapanno saññāvedayitanirodhaṁ samāpajjeyyāpi vuṭṭhaheyyāpi—atthetaṁ ṭhānan”ti.

But for a second … and a third time Sāriputta repeated his statement.
Dutiyampi kho …pe… tatiyampi kho āyasmā sāriputto bhikkhū āmantesi:
“idhāvuso, bhikkhu sīlasampanno samādhisampanno paññāsampanno saññāvedayitanirodhaṁ samāpajjeyyāpi vuṭṭhaheyyāpi—
atthetaṁ ṭhānaṁ.
No ce diṭṭheva dhamme aññaṁ ārādheyya, atikkammeva kabaḷīkārāhārabhakkhānaṁ devānaṁ sahabyataṁ aññataraṁ manomayaṁ kāyaṁ upapanno saññāvedayitanirodhaṁ samāpajjeyyāpi vuṭṭhaheyyāpi—
atthetaṁ ṭhānan”ti.

But for a second … and a third time Sāriputta repeated his statement. Dutiyampi kho …pe… tatiyampi kho āyasmā sāriputto bhikkhū āmantesi: “idhāvuso, bhikkhu sīlasampanno samādhisampanno paññāsampanno saññāvedayitanirodhaṁ samāpajjeyyāpi vuṭṭhaheyyāpi—atthetaṁ ṭhānaṁ. No ce diṭṭheva dhamme aññaṁ ārādheyya, atikkammeva kabaḷīkārāhārabhakkhānaṁ devānaṁ sahabyataṁ aññataraṁ manomayaṁ kāyaṁ upapanno saññāvedayitanirodhaṁ samāpajjeyyāpi vuṭṭhaheyyāpi—atthetaṁ ṭhānan”ti.

And for a third time, Udāyī said to him, “This is not possible, Reverend Sāriputta, it cannot happen!”

Tatiyampi kho āyasmā udāyī āyasmantaṁ sāriputtaṁ etadavoca: “aṭṭhānaṁ kho etaṁ, āvuso sāriputta, anavakāso yaṁ so bhikkhu atikkammeva kabaḷīkārāhārabhakkhānaṁ devānaṁ sahabyataṁ aññataraṁ manomayaṁ kāyaṁ upapanno saññāvedayitanirodhaṁ samāpajjeyyāpi vuṭṭhaheyyāpi—natthetaṁ ṭhānan”ti.

And for a third time, Udāyī said to him,
Tatiyampi kho āyasmā udāyī āyasmantaṁ sāriputtaṁ etadavoca:
“This is not possible, Reverend Sāriputta, it cannot happen!”
“aṭṭhānaṁ kho etaṁ, āvuso sāriputta, anavakāso yaṁ so bhikkhu atikkammeva kabaḷīkārāhārabhakkhānaṁ devānaṁ sahabyataṁ aññataraṁ manomayaṁ kāyaṁ upapanno saññāvedayitanirodhaṁ samāpajjeyyāpi vuṭṭhaheyyāpi—
natthetaṁ ṭhānan”ti.

And for a third time, Udāyī said to him, Tatiyampi kho āyasmā udāyī āyasmantaṁ sāriputtaṁ etadavoca: “This is not possible, Reverend Sāriputta, it cannot happen!” “aṭṭhānaṁ kho etaṁ, āvuso sāriputta, anavakāso yaṁ so bhikkhu atikkammeva kabaḷīkārāhārabhakkhānaṁ devānaṁ sahabyataṁ aññataraṁ manomayaṁ kāyaṁ upapanno saññāvedayitanirodhaṁ samāpajjeyyāpi vuṭṭhaheyyāpi—natthetaṁ ṭhānan”ti.

Then Venerable Sāriputta thought, “Venerable Udāyī disagrees with me three times, and not one mendicant agrees with me. Why don’t I go to see the BuddhaBuddhaEl nombre dado a quien redescubre por sí mismo el sendero liberador del Dhamma, tras un largo período de haber sido olvidado por el mundo. Según la tradición, una larga línea de Buddhas se extiende hasta el pasado distante. El Buddha más reciente nació como Siddhattha Gotama en la India alrededor del año 500 a.e.c. Un joven bien educado y acomodado, renunció a su familia y su herencia principesca en la flor de la vida para buscar la verdadera libertad y el fin del sufrimiento (dukkha). Después de siete años de austeridades en el bosque, redescubrió el «camino medio» y alcanzó su meta, convirtiéndose en el Buddha.Ver en el glosario?”

Atha kho āyasmato sāriputtassa etadahosi: “yāvatatiyakampi kho me āyasmā udāyī paṭikkosati, na ca me koci bhikkhu anumodati. *yāvatatiyakampi → yāvatatiyampi (bj, sya-all, pts1ed)Yannūnāhaṁ yena bhagavā tenupasaṅkameyyan”ti.

Then Venerable Sāriputta thought,
Atha kho āyasmato sāriputtassa etadahosi:
“Venerable Udāyī disagrees with me three times, and not one mendicant agrees with me.
“yāvatatiyakampi kho me āyasmā udāyī paṭikkosati, na ca me koci bhikkhu anumodati. *yāvatatiyakampi → yāvatatiyampi (bj, sya-all, pts1ed)
Why don’t I go to see the Buddha?”
Yannūnāhaṁ yena bhagavā tenupasaṅkameyyan”ti.

Then Venerable Sāriputta thought, Atha kho āyasmato sāriputtassa etadahosi: “Venerable Udāyī disagrees with me three times, and not one mendicant agrees with me. “yāvatatiyakampi kho me āyasmā udāyī paṭikkosati, na ca me koci bhikkhu anumodati. *yāvatatiyakampi → yāvatatiyampi (bj, sya-all, pts1ed)Why don’t I go to see the Buddha?” Yannūnāhaṁ yena bhagavā tenupasaṅkameyyan”ti.

Then Sāriputta went up to the Buddha, bowed, sat down to one side, and said to the mendicants:

Atha kho āyasmā sāriputto yena bhagavā tenupasaṅkami; upasaṅkamitvā bhagavantaṁ abhivādetvā ekamantaṁ nisīdi. Ekamantaṁ nisinno kho āyasmā sāriputto bhikkhū āmantesi:

Then Sāriputta went up to the Buddha, bowed, sat down to one side,
Atha kho āyasmā sāriputto yena bhagavā tenupasaṅkami; upasaṅkamitvā bhagavantaṁ abhivādetvā ekamantaṁ nisīdi.
and said to the mendicants:
Ekamantaṁ nisinno kho āyasmā sāriputto bhikkhū āmantesi:

Then Sāriputta went up to the Buddha, bowed, sat down to one side, Atha kho āyasmā sāriputto yena bhagavā tenupasaṅkami; upasaṅkamitvā bhagavantaṁ abhivādetvā ekamantaṁ nisīdi. and said to the mendicants: Ekamantaṁ nisinno kho āyasmā sāriputto bhikkhū āmantesi:

“Reverends, take a mendicant who is accomplished in ethics, immersion, and wisdom. They might enter into and emerge from the cessation of perception and feeling. There is such a possibility. If they don’t reach enlightenment in this very life, they’re reborn in the company of a certain host of mind-made gods, who surpass the gods that consume edible food. There they might enter into and emerge from the cessation of perception and feeling. That is possible.”

“idhāvuso, bhikkhu sīlasampanno samādhisampanno paññāsampanno saññāvedayitanirodhaṁ samāpajjeyyāpi vuṭṭhaheyyāpi—atthetaṁ ṭhānaṁ. No ce diṭṭheva dhamme aññaṁ ārādheyya, atikkammeva kabaḷīkārāhārabhakkhānaṁ devānaṁ sahabyataṁ aññataraṁ manomayaṁ kāyaṁ upapanno saññāvedayitanirodhaṁ samāpajjeyyāpi vuṭṭhaheyyāpi—atthetaṁ ṭhānan”ti.

“Reverends, take a mendicant who is accomplished in ethics, immersion, and wisdom. They might enter into and emerge from the cessation of perception and feeling.
“idhāvuso, bhikkhu sīlasampanno samādhisampanno paññāsampanno saññāvedayitanirodhaṁ samāpajjeyyāpi vuṭṭhaheyyāpi—
There is such a possibility.
atthetaṁ ṭhānaṁ.
If they don’t reach enlightenment in this very life, they’re reborn in the company of a certain host of mind-made gods, who surpass the gods that consume edible food. There they might enter into and emerge from the cessation of perception and feeling.
No ce diṭṭheva dhamme aññaṁ ārādheyya, atikkammeva kabaḷīkārāhārabhakkhānaṁ devānaṁ sahabyataṁ aññataraṁ manomayaṁ kāyaṁ upapanno saññāvedayitanirodhaṁ samāpajjeyyāpi vuṭṭhaheyyāpi—
That is possible.”
atthetaṁ ṭhānan”ti.

“Reverends, take a mendicant who is accomplished in ethics, immersion, and wisdom. They might enter into and emerge from the cessation of perception and feeling. “idhāvuso, bhikkhu sīlasampanno samādhisampanno paññāsampanno saññāvedayitanirodhaṁ samāpajjeyyāpi vuṭṭhaheyyāpi—There is such a possibility. atthetaṁ ṭhānaṁ. If they don’t reach enlightenment in this very life, they’re reborn in the company of a certain host of mind-made gods, who surpass the gods that consume edible food. There they might enter into and emerge from the cessation of perception and feeling. No ce diṭṭheva dhamme aññaṁ ārādheyya, atikkammeva kabaḷīkārāhārabhakkhānaṁ devānaṁ sahabyataṁ aññataraṁ manomayaṁ kāyaṁ upapanno saññāvedayitanirodhaṁ samāpajjeyyāpi vuṭṭhaheyyāpi—That is possible.” atthetaṁ ṭhānan”ti.

When he said this, Udāyī said to him, “This is not possible, Reverend Sāriputta, it cannot happen!”

Evaṁ vutte, āyasmā udāyī āyasmantaṁ sāriputtaṁ etadavoca: “aṭṭhānaṁ kho etaṁ, āvuso sāriputta, anavakāso yaṁ so bhikkhu atikkammeva kabaḷīkārāhārabhakkhānaṁ devānaṁ sahabyataṁ aññataraṁ manomayaṁ kāyaṁ upapanno saññāvedayitanirodhaṁ samāpajjeyyāpi vuṭṭhaheyyāpi—natthetaṁ ṭhānan”ti.

When he said this, Udāyī said to him,
Evaṁ vutte, āyasmā udāyī āyasmantaṁ sāriputtaṁ etadavoca:
“This is not possible, Reverend Sāriputta, it cannot happen!”
“aṭṭhānaṁ kho etaṁ, āvuso sāriputta, anavakāso yaṁ so bhikkhu atikkammeva kabaḷīkārāhārabhakkhānaṁ devānaṁ sahabyataṁ aññataraṁ manomayaṁ kāyaṁ upapanno saññāvedayitanirodhaṁ samāpajjeyyāpi vuṭṭhaheyyāpi—
natthetaṁ ṭhānan”ti.

When he said this, Udāyī said to him, Evaṁ vutte, āyasmā udāyī āyasmantaṁ sāriputtaṁ etadavoca: “This is not possible, Reverend Sāriputta, it cannot happen!” “aṭṭhānaṁ kho etaṁ, āvuso sāriputta, anavakāso yaṁ so bhikkhu atikkammeva kabaḷīkārāhārabhakkhānaṁ devānaṁ sahabyataṁ aññataraṁ manomayaṁ kāyaṁ upapanno saññāvedayitanirodhaṁ samāpajjeyyāpi vuṭṭhaheyyāpi—natthetaṁ ṭhānan”ti.

But for a second … and a third time Sāriputta repeated his statement.

Dutiyampi kho …pe… tatiyampi kho āyasmā sāriputto bhikkhū āmantesi: “idhāvuso, bhikkhu sīlasampanno samādhisampanno paññāsampanno saññāvedayitanirodhaṁ samāpajjeyyāpi vuṭṭhaheyyāpi—atthetaṁ ṭhānaṁ. No ce diṭṭheva dhamme aññaṁ ārādheyya, atikkammeva kabaḷīkārāhārabhakkhānaṁ devānaṁ sahabyataṁ aññataraṁ manomayaṁ kāyaṁ upapanno saññāvedayitanirodhaṁ samāpajjeyyāpi vuṭṭhaheyyāpi—atthetaṁ ṭhānan”ti.

But for a second … and a third time Sāriputta repeated his statement.
Dutiyampi kho …pe… tatiyampi kho āyasmā sāriputto bhikkhū āmantesi:
“idhāvuso, bhikkhu sīlasampanno samādhisampanno paññāsampanno saññāvedayitanirodhaṁ samāpajjeyyāpi vuṭṭhaheyyāpi—
atthetaṁ ṭhānaṁ.
No ce diṭṭheva dhamme aññaṁ ārādheyya, atikkammeva kabaḷīkārāhārabhakkhānaṁ devānaṁ sahabyataṁ aññataraṁ manomayaṁ kāyaṁ upapanno saññāvedayitanirodhaṁ samāpajjeyyāpi vuṭṭhaheyyāpi—
atthetaṁ ṭhānan”ti.

But for a second … and a third time Sāriputta repeated his statement. Dutiyampi kho …pe… tatiyampi kho āyasmā sāriputto bhikkhū āmantesi: “idhāvuso, bhikkhu sīlasampanno samādhisampanno paññāsampanno saññāvedayitanirodhaṁ samāpajjeyyāpi vuṭṭhaheyyāpi—atthetaṁ ṭhānaṁ. No ce diṭṭheva dhamme aññaṁ ārādheyya, atikkammeva kabaḷīkārāhārabhakkhānaṁ devānaṁ sahabyataṁ aññataraṁ manomayaṁ kāyaṁ upapanno saññāvedayitanirodhaṁ samāpajjeyyāpi vuṭṭhaheyyāpi—atthetaṁ ṭhānan”ti.

And for a third time, Udāyī said to him, “This is not possible, Reverend Sāriputta, it cannot happen!”

Tatiyampi kho āyasmā udāyī āyasmantaṁ sāriputtaṁ etadavoca: “aṭṭhānaṁ kho etaṁ, āvuso sāriputta, anavakāso yaṁ so bhikkhu atikkammeva kabaḷīkārāhārabhakkhānaṁ devānaṁ sahabyataṁ aññataraṁ manomayaṁ kāyaṁ upapanno saññāvedayitanirodhaṁ samāpajjeyyāpi vuṭṭhaheyyāpi—natthetaṁ ṭhānan”ti.

And for a third time, Udāyī said to him,
Tatiyampi kho āyasmā udāyī āyasmantaṁ sāriputtaṁ etadavoca:
“This is not possible, Reverend Sāriputta, it cannot happen!”
“aṭṭhānaṁ kho etaṁ, āvuso sāriputta, anavakāso yaṁ so bhikkhu atikkammeva kabaḷīkārāhārabhakkhānaṁ devānaṁ sahabyataṁ aññataraṁ manomayaṁ kāyaṁ upapanno saññāvedayitanirodhaṁ samāpajjeyyāpi vuṭṭhaheyyāpi—
natthetaṁ ṭhānan”ti.

And for a third time, Udāyī said to him, Tatiyampi kho āyasmā udāyī āyasmantaṁ sāriputtaṁ etadavoca: “This is not possible, Reverend Sāriputta, it cannot happen!” “aṭṭhānaṁ kho etaṁ, āvuso sāriputta, anavakāso yaṁ so bhikkhu atikkammeva kabaḷīkārāhārabhakkhānaṁ devānaṁ sahabyataṁ aññataraṁ manomayaṁ kāyaṁ upapanno saññāvedayitanirodhaṁ samāpajjeyyāpi vuṭṭhaheyyāpi—natthetaṁ ṭhānan”ti.

Then Venerable Sāriputta thought, “Even in front of the Buddha Venerable Udāyī disagrees with me three times, and not one mendicant agrees with me. I’d better stay silent.” Then Sāriputta fell silent.

Atha kho āyasmato sāriputtassa etadahosi: “bhagavatopi kho me sammukhā āyasmā udāyī yāvatatiyakaṁ paṭikkosati, na ca me koci bhikkhu anumodati. Yannūnāhaṁ tuṇhī assan”ti. Atha kho āyasmā sāriputto tuṇhī ahosi.

Then Venerable Sāriputta thought,
Atha kho āyasmato sāriputtassa etadahosi:
“Even in front of the Buddha Venerable Udāyī disagrees with me three times, and not one mendicant agrees with me.
“bhagavatopi kho me sammukhā āyasmā udāyī yāvatatiyakaṁ paṭikkosati, na ca me koci bhikkhu anumodati.
I’d better stay silent.”
Yannūnāhaṁ tuṇhī assan”ti.
Then Sāriputta fell silent.
Atha kho āyasmā sāriputto tuṇhī ahosi.

Then Venerable Sāriputta thought, Atha kho āyasmato sāriputtassa etadahosi: “Even in front of the Buddha Venerable Udāyī disagrees with me three times, and not one mendicant agrees with me. “bhagavatopi kho me sammukhā āyasmā udāyī yāvatatiyakaṁ paṭikkosati, na ca me koci bhikkhu anumodati. I’d better stay silent.” Yannūnāhaṁ tuṇhī assan”ti. Then Sāriputta fell silent. Atha kho āyasmā sāriputto tuṇhī ahosi.

Then the Buddha said to Venerable Udāyī, “But Udāyī, do you believe in a mind-made body?”

Atha kho bhagavā āyasmantaṁ udāyiṁ āmantesi: “kaṁ pana tvaṁ, udāyi, manomayaṁ kāyaṁ paccesī”ti?

Then the Buddha said to Venerable Udāyī,
Atha kho bhagavā āyasmantaṁ udāyiṁ āmantesi:
“But Udāyī, do you believe in a mind-made body?”
“kaṁ pana tvaṁ, udāyi, manomayaṁ kāyaṁ paccesī”ti?

Then the Buddha said to Venerable Udāyī, Atha kho bhagavā āyasmantaṁ udāyiṁ āmantesi: “But Udāyī, do you believe in a mind-made body?” “kaṁ pana tvaṁ, udāyi, manomayaṁ kāyaṁ paccesī”ti?

“For those gods, sir, who are formless, made of perception.”

“Ye te, bhante, devā arūpino saññāmayā”ti.

“For those gods, sir, who are formless, made of perception.”
“Ye te, bhante, devā arūpino saññāmayā”ti.

“For those gods, sir, who are formless, made of perception.” “Ye te, bhante, devā arūpino saññāmayā”ti.

“Udāyī, what has an incompetent fool like you got to say? How on earth could you imagine you’ve got something worth saying!”

“Kiṁ nu kho tuyhaṁ, udāyi, bālassa abyattassa bhaṇitena. Tvampi nāma bhaṇitabbaṁ maññasī”ti.

“Udāyī, what has an incompetent fool like you got to say?
“Kiṁ nu kho tuyhaṁ, udāyi, bālassa abyattassa bhaṇitena.
How on earth could you imagine you’ve got something worth saying!”
Tvampi nāma bhaṇitabbaṁ maññasī”ti.

“Udāyī, what has an incompetent fool like you got to say? “Kiṁ nu kho tuyhaṁ, udāyi, bālassa abyattassa bhaṇitena. How on earth could you imagine you’ve got something worth saying!” Tvampi nāma bhaṇitabbaṁ maññasī”ti.

Then the Buddha said to Venerable Ānanda, “Ānanda! How can you just watch while a senior mendicant is being harassed? Don’t you have any compassion for a senior mendicant who is being harassed?”

Atha kho bhagavā āyasmantaṁ ānandaṁ āmantesi: “atthi nāma, ānanda, theraṁ bhikkhuṁ vihesiyamānaṁ ajjhupekkhissatha. Na hi nāma, ānanda, kāruññampi bhavissati theramhi bhikkhumhi vihesiyamānamhī”ti. *theramhi → byattamhi (sya-all, km, mr)

Then the Buddha said to Venerable Ānanda,
Atha kho bhagavā āyasmantaṁ ānandaṁ āmantesi:
“Ānanda! How can you just watch while a senior mendicant is being harassed?
“atthi nāma, ānanda, theraṁ bhikkhuṁ vihesiyamānaṁ ajjhupekkhissatha.
Don’t you have any compassion for a senior mendicant who is being harassed?”
Na hi nāma, ānanda, kāruññampi bhavissati theramhi bhikkhumhi vihesiyamānamhī”ti. *theramhi → byattamhi (sya-all, km, mr)

Then the Buddha said to Venerable Ānanda, Atha kho bhagavā āyasmantaṁ ānandaṁ āmantesi: “Ānanda! How can you just watch while a senior mendicant is being harassed? “atthi nāma, ānanda, theraṁ bhikkhuṁ vihesiyamānaṁ ajjhupekkhissatha. Don’t you have any compassion for a senior mendicant who is being harassed?” Na hi nāma, ānanda, kāruññampi bhavissati theramhi bhikkhumhi vihesiyamānamhī”ti. *theramhi → byattamhi (sya-all, km, mr)

Then the Buddha addressed the mendicants:

Atha kho bhagavā bhikkhū āmantesi:

Then the Buddha addressed the mendicants:
Atha kho bhagavā bhikkhū āmantesi:

Then the Buddha addressed the mendicants: Atha kho bhagavā bhikkhū āmantesi:

“Mendicants, take a mendicant who is accomplished in ethics, immersion, and wisdom. They might enter into and emerge from the cessation of perception and feeling. That is possible. If they don’t reach enlightenment in this very life, they’re reborn in the company of a certain host of mind-made gods, who surpass the gods that consume edible food. There they might enter into and emerge from the cessation of perception and feeling. That is possible.”

“idha, bhikkhave, bhikkhu sīlasampanno samādhisampanno paññāsampanno saññāvedayitanirodhaṁ samāpajjeyyāpi vuṭṭhaheyyāpi—atthetaṁ ṭhānaṁ. No ce diṭṭheva dhamme aññaṁ ārādheyya, atikkammeva kabaḷīkārāhārabhakkhānaṁ devānaṁ sahabyataṁ aññataraṁ manomayaṁ kāyaṁ upapanno saññāvedayitanirodhaṁ samāpajjeyyāpi vuṭṭhaheyyāpi—atthetaṁ ṭhānan”ti.

“Mendicants, take a mendicant who is accomplished in ethics, immersion, and wisdom. They might enter into and emerge from the cessation of perception and feeling.
“idha, bhikkhave, bhikkhu sīlasampanno samādhisampanno paññāsampanno saññāvedayitanirodhaṁ samāpajjeyyāpi vuṭṭhaheyyāpi—
That is possible.
atthetaṁ ṭhānaṁ.
If they don’t reach enlightenment in this very life, they’re reborn in the company of a certain host of mind-made gods, who surpass the gods that consume edible food. There they might enter into and emerge from the cessation of perception and feeling.
No ce diṭṭheva dhamme aññaṁ ārādheyya, atikkammeva kabaḷīkārāhārabhakkhānaṁ devānaṁ sahabyataṁ aññataraṁ manomayaṁ kāyaṁ upapanno saññāvedayitanirodhaṁ samāpajjeyyāpi vuṭṭhaheyyāpi—
That is possible.”
atthetaṁ ṭhānan”ti.

“Mendicants, take a mendicant who is accomplished in ethics, immersion, and wisdom. They might enter into and emerge from the cessation of perception and feeling. “idha, bhikkhave, bhikkhu sīlasampanno samādhisampanno paññāsampanno saññāvedayitanirodhaṁ samāpajjeyyāpi vuṭṭhaheyyāpi—That is possible. atthetaṁ ṭhānaṁ. If they don’t reach enlightenment in this very life, they’re reborn in the company of a certain host of mind-made gods, who surpass the gods that consume edible food. There they might enter into and emerge from the cessation of perception and feeling. No ce diṭṭheva dhamme aññaṁ ārādheyya, atikkammeva kabaḷīkārāhārabhakkhānaṁ devānaṁ sahabyataṁ aññataraṁ manomayaṁ kāyaṁ upapanno saññāvedayitanirodhaṁ samāpajjeyyāpi vuṭṭhaheyyāpi—That is possible.” atthetaṁ ṭhānan”ti.

That is what the Buddha said. When he had spoken, the Holy One rose from his seat and entered his dwelling.

Idamavoca bhagavā. Idaṁ vatvāna sugato uṭṭhāyāsanā vihāraṁ pāvisi.

That is what the Buddha said.
Idamavoca bhagavā.
When he had spoken, the Holy One rose from his seat and entered his dwelling.
Idaṁ vatvāna sugato uṭṭhāyāsanā vihāraṁ pāvisi.

That is what the Buddha said. Idamavoca bhagavā. When he had spoken, the Holy One rose from his seat and entered his dwelling. Idaṁ vatvāna sugato uṭṭhāyāsanā vihāraṁ pāvisi.

Then, not long after the Buddha had left, Venerable Ānanda went to Venerable Upavāṇa and said to him, “Reverend Upavāṇa, they’ve been harassing other senior mendicants, but I didn’t question them. I wouldn’t be surprised if the Buddha brings this up when he comes out of retreat later this afternoon. He might even call upon Venerable Upavāṇa himself. And right now I feel timid.”

Atha kho āyasmā ānando acirapakkantassa bhagavato yenāyasmā upavāṇo tenupasaṅkami; upasaṅkamitvā āyasmantaṁ upavāṇaṁ etadavoca: “idhāvuso upavāṇa, aññe there bhikkhū vihesenti. Mayaṁ tena na muccāma. Anacchariyaṁ kho, panetaṁ āvuso upavāṇa, yaṁ bhagavā sāyanhasamayaṁ paṭisallānā vuṭṭhito etadeva ārabbha udāhareyya yathā āyasmantaṁyevettha upavāṇaṁ paṭibhāseyya. Idāneva amhākaṁ sārajjaṁ okkantan”ti.

Then, not long after the Buddha had left, Venerable Ānanda went to Venerable Upavāṇa and said to him,
Atha kho āyasmā ānando acirapakkantassa bhagavato yenāyasmā upavāṇo tenupasaṅkami; upasaṅkamitvā āyasmantaṁ upavāṇaṁ etadavoca:
“Reverend Upavāṇa, they’ve been harassing other senior mendicants,
“idhāvuso upavāṇa, aññe there bhikkhū vihesenti.
but I didn’t question them.
Mayaṁ tena na muccāma.
I wouldn’t be surprised if the Buddha brings this up when he comes out of retreat later this afternoon. He might even call upon Venerable Upavāṇa himself.
Anacchariyaṁ kho, panetaṁ āvuso upavāṇa, yaṁ bhagavā sāyanhasamayaṁ paṭisallānā vuṭṭhito etadeva ārabbha udāhareyya yathā āyasmantaṁyevettha upavāṇaṁ paṭibhāseyya.
And right now I feel timid.”
Idāneva amhākaṁ sārajjaṁ okkantan”ti.

Then, not long after the Buddha had left, Venerable Ānanda went to Venerable Upavāṇa and said to him, Atha kho āyasmā ānando acirapakkantassa bhagavato yenāyasmā upavāṇo tenupasaṅkami; upasaṅkamitvā āyasmantaṁ upavāṇaṁ etadavoca: “Reverend Upavāṇa, they’ve been harassing other senior mendicants, “idhāvuso upavāṇa, aññe there bhikkhū vihesenti. but I didn’t question them. Mayaṁ tena na muccāma. I wouldn’t be surprised if the Buddha brings this up when he comes out of retreat later this afternoon. He might even call upon Venerable Upavāṇa himself. Anacchariyaṁ kho, panetaṁ āvuso upavāṇa, yaṁ bhagavā sāyanhasamayaṁ paṭisallānā vuṭṭhito etadeva ārabbha udāhareyya yathā āyasmantaṁyevettha upavāṇaṁ paṭibhāseyya. And right now I feel timid.” Idāneva amhākaṁ sārajjaṁ okkantan”ti.

Then in the late afternoon, the Buddha came out of retreat and went to the assembly hall, where he sat on the seat spread out, and said to Upavāṇa, “Upavāṇa, how many qualities should a senior mendicant have to be dear and beloved to their spiritual companions, respected and admired?”

Atha kho bhagavā sāyanhasamayaṁ paṭisallānā vuṭṭhito yena upaṭṭhānasālā tenupasaṅkami; upasaṅkamitvā paññatte āsane nisīdi. Nisajja kho bhagavā āyasmantaṁ upavāṇaṁ etadavoca: “Katihi nu kho, upavāṇa, dhammehi samannāgato thero bhikkhu sabrahmacārīnaṁ piyo ca hoti manāpo ca garu ca bhāvanīyo cā”ti?

Then in the late afternoon, the Buddha came out of retreat and went to the assembly hall, where he sat on the seat spread out, and said to Upavāṇa,
Atha kho bhagavā sāyanhasamayaṁ paṭisallānā vuṭṭhito yena upaṭṭhānasālā tenupasaṅkami; upasaṅkamitvā paññatte āsane nisīdi. Nisajja kho bhagavā āyasmantaṁ upavāṇaṁ etadavoca:
“Upavāṇa, how many qualities should a senior mendicant have to be dear and beloved to their spiritual companions, respected and admired?”
“Katihi nu kho, upavāṇa, dhammehi samannāgato thero bhikkhu sabrahmacārīnaṁ piyo ca hoti manāpo ca garu ca bhāvanīyo cā”ti?

Then in the late afternoon, the Buddha came out of retreat and went to the assembly hall, where he sat on the seat spread out, and said to Upavāṇa, Atha kho bhagavā sāyanhasamayaṁ paṭisallānā vuṭṭhito yena upaṭṭhānasālā tenupasaṅkami; upasaṅkamitvā paññatte āsane nisīdi. Nisajja kho bhagavā āyasmantaṁ upavāṇaṁ etadavoca: “Upavāṇa, how many qualities should a senior mendicant have to be dear and beloved to their spiritual companions, respected and admired?” “Katihi nu kho, upavāṇa, dhammehi samannāgato thero bhikkhu sabrahmacārīnaṁ piyo ca hoti manāpo ca garu ca bhāvanīyo cā”ti?

“Sir, a senior mendicant with five qualities is dear and beloved to their spiritual companions, respected and admired. What five?

“Pañcahi, bhante, dhammehi samannāgato thero bhikkhu sabrahmacārīnaṁ piyo ca hoti manāpo ca garu ca bhāvanīyo ca. Katamehi pañcahi?

“Sir, a senior mendicant with five qualities is dear and beloved to their spiritual companions, respected and admired.
“Pañcahi, bhante, dhammehi samannāgato thero bhikkhu sabrahmacārīnaṁ piyo ca hoti manāpo ca garu ca bhāvanīyo ca.
What five?
Katamehi pañcahi?

“Sir, a senior mendicant with five qualities is dear and beloved to their spiritual companions, respected and admired. “Pañcahi, bhante, dhammehi samannāgato thero bhikkhu sabrahmacārīnaṁ piyo ca hoti manāpo ca garu ca bhāvanīyo ca. What five? Katamehi pañcahi?

It’s when a mendicant is ethical, restrained in the monastic code, conducting themselves well and resorting for alms in suitable places. Seeing danger in the slightest fault, they keep the rules they’ve undertaken.

Idha, bhante, thero bhikkhu sīlavā hoti …pe… samādāya sikkhati sikkhāpadesu;

It’s when a mendicant is ethical, restrained in the monastic code, conducting themselves well and resorting for alms in suitable places. Seeing danger in the slightest fault, they keep the rules they’ve undertaken.
Idha, bhante, thero bhikkhu sīlavā hoti …pe… samādāya sikkhati sikkhāpadesu;

It’s when a mendicant is ethical, restrained in the monastic code, conducting themselves well and resorting for alms in suitable places. Seeing danger in the slightest fault, they keep the rules they’ve undertaken. Idha, bhante, thero bhikkhu sīlavā hoti …pe… samādāya sikkhati sikkhāpadesu;

They’re very learned, remembering and keeping what they’ve learned. These teachings are good in the beginning, good in the middle, and good in the end, meaningful and well-phrased, describing a spiritual practice that’s totally full and pure. They are very learned in such teachings, remembering them, reciting them, mentally scrutinizing them, and penetrating them theoretically.

bahussuto hoti …pe… diṭṭhiyā suppaṭividdhā;

They’re very learned, remembering and keeping what they’ve learned. These teachings are good in the beginning, good in the middle, and good in the end, meaningful and well-phrased, describing a spiritual practice that’s totally full and pure. They are very learned in such teachings, remembering them, reciting them, mentally scrutinizing them, and penetrating them theoretically.
bahussuto hoti …pe… diṭṭhiyā suppaṭividdhā;

They’re very learned, remembering and keeping what they’ve learned. These teachings are good in the beginning, good in the middle, and good in the end, meaningful and well-phrased, describing a spiritual practice that’s totally full and pure. They are very learned in such teachings, remembering them, reciting them, mentally scrutinizing them, and penetrating them theoretically. bahussuto hoti …pe… diṭṭhiyā suppaṭividdhā;

They’re a good speaker who enunciates well, with a polished, clear, and articulate voice that expresses the meaning.

kalyāṇavāco hoti kalyāṇavākkaraṇo poriyā vācāya samannāgato vissaṭṭhāya anelagalāya atthassa viññāpaniyā; *anelagalāya → anelagaḷāya (sya-all, km)

They’re a good speaker who enunciates well, with a polished, clear, and articulate voice that expresses the meaning.
kalyāṇavāco hoti kalyāṇavākkaraṇo poriyā vācāya samannāgato vissaṭṭhāya anelagalāya atthassa viññāpaniyā; *anelagalāya → anelagaḷāya (sya-all, km)

They’re a good speaker who enunciates well, with a polished, clear, and articulate voice that expresses the meaning. kalyāṇavāco hoti kalyāṇavākkaraṇo poriyā vācāya samannāgato vissaṭṭhāya anelagalāya atthassa viññāpaniyā; *anelagalāya → anelagaḷāya (sya-all, km)

They get the four absorptions—blissful meditations in this life that belong to the higher mind—when they want, without trouble or difficulty.

catunnaṁ jhānānaṁ ābhicetasikānaṁ diṭṭhadhammasukhavihārānaṁ nikāmalābhī hoti akicchalābhī akasiralābhī;

They get the four absorptions—blissful meditations in this life that belong to the higher mind—when they want, without trouble or difficulty.
catunnaṁ jhānānaṁ ābhicetasikānaṁ diṭṭhadhammasukhavihārānaṁ nikāmalābhī hoti akicchalābhī akasiralābhī;

They get the four absorptions—blissful meditations in this life that belong to the higher mind—when they want, without trouble or difficulty. catunnaṁ jhānānaṁ ābhicetasikānaṁ diṭṭhadhammasukhavihārānaṁ nikāmalābhī hoti akicchalābhī akasiralābhī;

They realize the undefiled freedom of heart and freedom by wisdom in this very life. And they live having realized it with their own insight due to the ending of defilements.

āsavānaṁ khayā …pe… sacchikatvā upasampajja viharati.

They realize the undefiled freedom of heart and freedom by wisdom in this very life. And they live having realized it with their own insight due to the ending of defilements.
āsavānaṁ khayā …pe… sacchikatvā upasampajja viharati.

They realize the undefiled freedom of heart and freedom by wisdom in this very life. And they live having realized it with their own insight due to the ending of defilements. āsavānaṁ khayā …pe… sacchikatvā upasampajja viharati.

A senior mendicant with these five qualities is dear and beloved to their spiritual companions, respected and admired.”

Imehi kho, bhante, pañcahi dhammehi samannāgato thero bhikkhu sabrahmacārīnaṁ piyo ca hoti manāpo ca garu ca bhāvanīyo cā”ti.

A senior mendicant with these five qualities is dear and beloved to their spiritual companions, respected and admired.”
Imehi kho, bhante, pañcahi dhammehi samannāgato thero bhikkhu sabrahmacārīnaṁ piyo ca hoti manāpo ca garu ca bhāvanīyo cā”ti.

A senior mendicant with these five qualities is dear and beloved to their spiritual companions, respected and admired.” Imehi kho, bhante, pañcahi dhammehi samannāgato thero bhikkhu sabrahmacārīnaṁ piyo ca hoti manāpo ca garu ca bhāvanīyo cā”ti.

“Good, good, Upavāṇa! A senior mendicant with these five qualities is dear and beloved to their spiritual companions, respected and admired. If these five qualities are not found in a senior mendicant, why would their spiritual companions honor, respect, revere, or venerate them? Because of their broken teeth, gray hair, and wrinkled skin? But since these five qualities are found in a senior mendicant, their spiritual companions honor, respect, revere, or venerate them.”

“Sādhu sādhu, upavāṇa. Imehi kho, upavāṇa, pañcahi dhammehi samannāgato thero bhikkhu sabrahmacārīnaṁ piyo ca hoti manāpo ca garu ca bhāvanīyo ca. Ime ce, upavāṇa, pañca dhammā therassa bhikkhuno na saṁvijjeyyuṁ, taṁ sabrahmacārī na sakkareyyuṁ na garuṁ kareyyuṁ na māneyyuṁ na pūjeyyuṁ khaṇḍiccena pāliccena valittacatāya. Yasmā ca kho, upavāṇa, ime pañca dhammā therassa bhikkhuno saṁvijjanti, tasmā taṁ sabrahmacārī sakkaronti garuṁ karonti mānenti pūjentī”ti.

“Good, good, Upavāṇa!
“Sādhu sādhu, upavāṇa.
A senior mendicant with these five qualities is dear and beloved to their spiritual companions, respected and admired.
Imehi kho, upavāṇa, pañcahi dhammehi samannāgato thero bhikkhu sabrahmacārīnaṁ piyo ca hoti manāpo ca garu ca bhāvanīyo ca.
If these five qualities are not found in a senior mendicant, why would their spiritual companions honor, respect, revere, or venerate them? Because of their broken teeth, gray hair, and wrinkled skin?
Ime ce, upavāṇa, pañca dhammā therassa bhikkhuno na saṁvijjeyyuṁ, taṁ sabrahmacārī na sakkareyyuṁ na garuṁ kareyyuṁ na māneyyuṁ na pūjeyyuṁ khaṇḍiccena pāliccena valittacatāya.
But since these five qualities are found in a senior mendicant, their spiritual companions honor, respect, revere, or venerate them.”
Yasmā ca kho, upavāṇa, ime pañca dhammā therassa bhikkhuno saṁvijjanti, tasmā taṁ sabrahmacārī sakkaronti garuṁ karonti mānenti pūjentī”ti.

“Good, good, Upavāṇa! “Sādhu sādhu, upavāṇa. A senior mendicant with these five qualities is dear and beloved to their spiritual companions, respected and admired. Imehi kho, upavāṇa, pañcahi dhammehi samannāgato thero bhikkhu sabrahmacārīnaṁ piyo ca hoti manāpo ca garu ca bhāvanīyo ca. If these five qualities are not found in a senior mendicant, why would their spiritual companions honor, respect, revere, or venerate them? Because of their broken teeth, gray hair, and wrinkled skin? Ime ce, upavāṇa, pañca dhammā therassa bhikkhuno na saṁvijjeyyuṁ, taṁ sabrahmacārī na sakkareyyuṁ na garuṁ kareyyuṁ na māneyyuṁ na pūjeyyuṁ khaṇḍiccena pāliccena valittacatāya. But since these five qualities are found in a senior mendicant, their spiritual companions honor, respect, revere, or venerate them.” Yasmā ca kho, upavāṇa, ime pañca dhammā therassa bhikkhuno saṁvijjanti, tasmā taṁ sabrahmacārī sakkaronti garuṁ karonti mānenti pūjentī”ti.

Chaṭṭhaṁ.

Chaṭṭhaṁ.

Chaṭṭhaṁ.

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Texto original en pali: Mahāsaṅgīti Tipiṭaka Buddhavasse 2500.

Datos pali, segmentación, variantes y metadatos: importados desde SuttaCentral.

Traducción al inglés: Bhikkhu Sujato.

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