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Dilemma the Fifty-Ninth. The Guilty Recluse

Khuddaka Nikāya
1. Buddhavagga
Dussīlapañha
Minor Collection
1. Buddhas
Dilemma the Fifty-Ninth. The Guilty Recluse
Khuddaka Nikāya
1. Buddhavagga
Dussīlapañha
Ruta suttaMil 6.1.8Sutta Piṭaka›Khuddaka Nikāya›Milindapañha›6. Anumānapañha›1. Buddhavagga›Dussīlapañha
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Questions of King Milinda
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T W Rhys Davids
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Milindapañha
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Pali
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PTS vp En 82 PTS cs 50 PTS vp Pali 257 ‘Venerable Nāgasena, what is the distinction, what the difference, between a layman who has done wrong, and a Samaṇa (member of the Order) who has done wrong? Will they both be reborn in like condition? Will the like retribution happen to both? Or is there any difference?’

‘There are, O king, ten qualities which abound in the guilty Samaṇa, distinguishing him from the guilty layman. And besides that, in ten ways does the Samaṇa purify the gifts that may be given him.

PTS cs 51 ‘And what are the ten qualities which abound in the guilty Samaṇa, distinguishing him from the guilty layman? the guilty Samaṇa, O king, is full of reverence for the Buddha, for the Law, for the Order, and for his fellow-disciples; he exerts himself in putting questions about, and in recitation of (the sacred texts); he is devoted to learning, though he has done wrong. Then, O king, the guilty one entering the assembly, enters it decently clad, he guards himself alike in body and mind through fear of rebuke, his mind is set upon exerting himself (towards the attainment of Arahatship), he is of the companionship of the brethren. And even, O king, if he does wrong he lives discreetly. just, O king, as a married woman sins only in secret and in privacy, so does the guilty Samaṇa walk discreetly in his wrongdoing. These are the ten qualities, O king, found in the guilty Samaṇa, distinguishing him from the guilty layman.

PTS cs 52 ‘And what are the ten ways in which, besides, PTS vp En 83 he purifies a gift given to him? He purifies it in that he wears an invulnerable coat of mail ; in that he is shorn in the fashion of the characteristic mark of renunciation used by the seers of old ; in that he is one who is included in the multitude of the brethren; in that he has taken his refuge in the Buddha, the Law, and the Order; in that he dwells in a lonely spot suitable for the exertion (after Arahatship); in that he seeks after the treasure of the teaching of the Conquerors; in that he preaches the most excellent law (Dhamma); in that his final destiny is to be reborn in the island of truth ; in that he is possessed of an honest belief that the Buddha is the chief of all beings; in that he has taken upon himself the keeping of the Uposatha day. These, O king, are the ten ways in which, besides, he purifies a gift given to him.

PTS cs 53 PTS vp Pali 258 ‘Even, O king, when thoroughly fallen, a guilty Samaṇa yet sanctifies the gifts of the supporters of the faith—just as water, however thick, will wash away slush and mud and dirt and stains—just as hot, and even boiling water will put a mighty blazing fire out—just as food, however nasty, will allay the faintness of hunger. For thus, O king, hath it been said by the god over all gods in the most excellent Majjhima Nikāya in the chapter “On gifts:”

PTS vp En 84 “Whene’er a good man, with believing heart,
Presents what he hath earned in righteousness
To th’ unrighteous—in full confidence
On the great fruit to follow the good act—
Such gift is, by the giver, sanctified.”’

‘Most wonderful, Nāgasena, and most strange! We asked you a mere ordinary question, and you, expounding it with reasons and with similes, have filled, as it were, the hearer with the sweet taste of the nectar (of Nirvāṇa). just as a cook, or a cook’s apprentice, taking a piece of ordinary nutmeg, will, treating it with various ingredients, prepare a dish for a king—so, Nāgasena, when we asked you an ordinary question, have you, expounding it with reasons and similes, filled the hearer with the sweet taste of the nectar of Nirvāṇa.’

Here ends the dilemma as to the guilty recluse.

8. Dussīlapañha
8. Dussīlapañha
8. Dussīlapañha

“Bhante nāgasena, gihidussīlassa ca samaṇadussīlassa ca ko viseso, kiṁ nānākaraṇaṁ, ubhopete samasamagatikā, ubhinnampi samasamo vipāko hoti, udāhu kiñci nānākāraṇaṁ atthī”ti?

“Bhante nāgasena, gihidussīlassa ca samaṇadussīlassa ca ko viseso, kiṁ nānākaraṇaṁ, ubhopete samasamagatikā, ubhinnampi samasamo vipāko hoti, udāhu kiñci nānākāraṇaṁ atthī”ti?

“Bhante nāgasena, gihidussīlassa ca samaṇadussīlassa ca ko viseso, kiṁ nānākaraṇaṁ, ubhopete samasamagatikā, ubhinnampi samasamo vipāko hoti, udāhu kiñci nānākāraṇaṁ atthī”ti?

“Dasayime, mahārāja, guṇā samaṇadussīlassa gihidussīlato visesena atirekā, dasahi ca kāraṇehi uttariṁ dakkhiṇaṁ visodheti.

“Dasayime, mahārāja, guṇā samaṇadussīlassa gihidussīlato visesena atirekā, dasahi ca kāraṇehi uttariṁ dakkhiṇaṁ visodheti.

“Dasayime, mahārāja, guṇā samaṇadussīlassa gihidussīlato visesena atirekā, dasahi ca kāraṇehi uttariṁ dakkhiṇaṁ visodheti.

Katame dasa guṇā samaṇadussīlassa gihidussīlato visesena atirekā? Idha, mahārāja, samaṇadussīlo buddhe sagāravo hoti, dhamme sagāravo hoti, saṅghe sagāravo hoti, sabrahmacārīsu sagāravo hoti, uddesaparipucchāya vāyamati, savanabahulo hoti, bhinnasīlopi, mahārāja, dussīlo parisagato ākappaṁ upaṭṭhapeti, garahabhayā kāyikaṁ vācasikaṁ rakkhati, padhānābhimukhañcassa hoti cittaṁ, bhikkhusāmaññaṁ upagato hoti. Karontopi, mahārāja, samaṇadussīlo pāpaṁ paṭicchannaṁ ācarati. Yathā, mahārāja, itthī sapatikā nilīyitvā rahasseneva pāpamācarati; evameva kho, mahārāja, karontopi samaṇadussīlo pāpaṁ paṭicchannaṁ ācarati. Ime kho, mahārāja, dasa guṇā samaṇadussīlassa gihidussīlato visesena atirekā.

Katame dasa guṇā samaṇadussīlassa gihidussīlato visesena atirekā?
Idha, mahārāja, samaṇadussīlo buddhe sagāravo hoti, dhamme sagāravo hoti, saṅghe sagāravo hoti, sabrahmacārīsu sagāravo hoti, uddesaparipucchāya vāyamati, savanabahulo hoti, bhinnasīlopi, mahārāja, dussīlo parisagato ākappaṁ upaṭṭhapeti, garahabhayā kāyikaṁ vācasikaṁ rakkhati, padhānābhimukhañcassa hoti cittaṁ, bhikkhusāmaññaṁ upagato hoti.
Karontopi, mahārāja, samaṇadussīlo pāpaṁ paṭicchannaṁ ācarati.
Yathā, mahārāja, itthī sapatikā nilīyitvā rahasseneva pāpamācarati;
evameva kho, mahārāja, karontopi samaṇadussīlo pāpaṁ paṭicchannaṁ ācarati.
Ime kho, mahārāja, dasa guṇā samaṇadussīlassa gihidussīlato visesena atirekā.

Katame dasa guṇā samaṇadussīlassa gihidussīlato visesena atirekā? Idha, mahārāja, samaṇadussīlo buddhe sagāravo hoti, dhamme sagāravo hoti, saṅghe sagāravo hoti, sabrahmacārīsu sagāravo hoti, uddesaparipucchāya vāyamati, savanabahulo hoti, bhinnasīlopi, mahārāja, dussīlo parisagato ākappaṁ upaṭṭhapeti, garahabhayā kāyikaṁ vācasikaṁ rakkhati, padhānābhimukhañcassa hoti cittaṁ, bhikkhusāmaññaṁ upagato hoti. Karontopi, mahārāja, samaṇadussīlo pāpaṁ paṭicchannaṁ ācarati. Yathā, mahārāja, itthī sapatikā nilīyitvā rahasseneva pāpamācarati; evameva kho, mahārāja, karontopi samaṇadussīlo pāpaṁ paṭicchannaṁ ācarati. Ime kho, mahārāja, dasa guṇā samaṇadussīlassa gihidussīlato visesena atirekā.

Katamehi dasahi kāraṇehi uttariṁ dakkhiṇaṁ visodheti? Anavajjakavacadhāraṇatāyapi dakkhiṇaṁ visodheti, isisāmaññabhaṇḍuliṅgadhāraṇatopi dakkhiṇaṁ visodheti, saṅghasamayamanuppaviṭṭhatāyapi dakkhiṇaṁ visodheti, buddhadhammasaṅghasaraṇagatatāyapi dakkhiṇaṁ visodheti, padhānāsayaniketavāsitāyapi dakkhiṇaṁ visodheti, jinasāsanadharapariyesanatopi dakkhiṇaṁ visodheti, pavaradhammadesanatopi dakkhiṇaṁ visodheti, dhammadīpagatiparāyaṇatāyapi dakkhiṇaṁ visodheti, ‘aggo buddho’ti ekantaujudiṭṭhitāyapi dakkhiṇaṁ visodheti, uposathasamādānatopi dakkhiṇaṁ visodheti. *jinasāsanadharapariyesanatopi → jinasāsanadhanapariyesanatopi (bj, pts-vp-pli1); jinasāsanadhammapariyesanatopi (maku)Imehi kho, mahārāja, dasahi kāraṇehi uttariṁ dakkhiṇaṁ visodheti.

Katamehi dasahi kāraṇehi uttariṁ dakkhiṇaṁ visodheti?
Anavajjakavacadhāraṇatāyapi dakkhiṇaṁ visodheti, isisāmaññabhaṇḍuliṅgadhāraṇatopi dakkhiṇaṁ visodheti, saṅghasamayamanuppaviṭṭhatāyapi dakkhiṇaṁ visodheti, buddhadhammasaṅghasaraṇagatatāyapi dakkhiṇaṁ visodheti, padhānāsayaniketavāsitāyapi dakkhiṇaṁ visodheti, jinasāsanadharapariyesanatopi dakkhiṇaṁ visodheti, pavaradhammadesanatopi dakkhiṇaṁ visodheti, dhammadīpagatiparāyaṇatāyapi dakkhiṇaṁ visodheti, ‘aggo buddho’ti ekantaujudiṭṭhitāyapi dakkhiṇaṁ visodheti, uposathasamādānatopi dakkhiṇaṁ visodheti. *jinasāsanadharapariyesanatopi → jinasāsanadhanapariyesanatopi (bj, pts-vp-pli1); jinasāsanadhammapariyesanatopi (maku)
Imehi kho, mahārāja, dasahi kāraṇehi uttariṁ dakkhiṇaṁ visodheti.

Katamehi dasahi kāraṇehi uttariṁ dakkhiṇaṁ visodheti? Anavajjakavacadhāraṇatāyapi dakkhiṇaṁ visodheti, isisāmaññabhaṇḍuliṅgadhāraṇatopi dakkhiṇaṁ visodheti, saṅghasamayamanuppaviṭṭhatāyapi dakkhiṇaṁ visodheti, buddhadhammasaṅghasaraṇagatatāyapi dakkhiṇaṁ visodheti, padhānāsayaniketavāsitāyapi dakkhiṇaṁ visodheti, jinasāsanadharapariyesanatopi dakkhiṇaṁ visodheti, pavaradhammadesanatopi dakkhiṇaṁ visodheti, dhammadīpagatiparāyaṇatāyapi dakkhiṇaṁ visodheti, ‘aggo buddho’ti ekantaujudiṭṭhitāyapi dakkhiṇaṁ visodheti, uposathasamādānatopi dakkhiṇaṁ visodheti. *jinasāsanadharapariyesanatopi → jinasāsanadhanapariyesanatopi (bj, pts-vp-pli1); jinasāsanadhammapariyesanatopi (maku)Imehi kho, mahārāja, dasahi kāraṇehi uttariṁ dakkhiṇaṁ visodheti.

Suvipannopi hi, mahārāja, samaṇadussīlo dāyakānaṁ dakkhiṇaṁ visodheti. Yathā, mahārāja, udakaṁ subahalampi kalalakaddamarajojallaṁ apaneti; evameva kho, mahārāja, suvipannopi samaṇadussīlo dāyakānaṁ dakkhiṇaṁ visodheti.

Suvipannopi hi, mahārāja, samaṇadussīlo dāyakānaṁ dakkhiṇaṁ visodheti.
Yathā, mahārāja, udakaṁ subahalampi kalalakaddamarajojallaṁ apaneti;
evameva kho, mahārāja, suvipannopi samaṇadussīlo dāyakānaṁ dakkhiṇaṁ visodheti.

Suvipannopi hi, mahārāja, samaṇadussīlo dāyakānaṁ dakkhiṇaṁ visodheti. Yathā, mahārāja, udakaṁ subahalampi kalalakaddamarajojallaṁ apaneti; evameva kho, mahārāja, suvipannopi samaṇadussīlo dāyakānaṁ dakkhiṇaṁ visodheti.

Yathā vā pana, mahārāja, uṇhodakaṁ sukudhitampi pajjalantaṁ mahantaṁ aggikkhandhaṁ nibbāpeti; *sukudhitampi → sukaṭhitampi (bj, pts-vp-pli1); suuṭṭhitampi (maku)evameva kho, mahārāja, suvipannopi samaṇadussīlo dāyakānaṁ dakkhiṇaṁ visodheti.

Yathā vā pana, mahārāja, uṇhodakaṁ sukudhitampi pajjalantaṁ mahantaṁ aggikkhandhaṁ nibbāpeti; *sukudhitampi → sukaṭhitampi (bj, pts-vp-pli1); suuṭṭhitampi (maku)
evameva kho, mahārāja, suvipannopi samaṇadussīlo dāyakānaṁ dakkhiṇaṁ visodheti.

Yathā vā pana, mahārāja, uṇhodakaṁ sukudhitampi pajjalantaṁ mahantaṁ aggikkhandhaṁ nibbāpeti; *sukudhitampi → sukaṭhitampi (bj, pts-vp-pli1); suuṭṭhitampi (maku)evameva kho, mahārāja, suvipannopi samaṇadussīlo dāyakānaṁ dakkhiṇaṁ visodheti.

Yathā vā pana, mahārāja, bhojanaṁ virasampi khudādubbalyaṁ apaneti; evameva kho, mahārāja, suvipannopi samaṇadussīlo dāyakānaṁ dakkhiṇaṁ visodheti.

Yathā vā pana, mahārāja, bhojanaṁ virasampi khudādubbalyaṁ apaneti;
evameva kho, mahārāja, suvipannopi samaṇadussīlo dāyakānaṁ dakkhiṇaṁ visodheti.

Yathā vā pana, mahārāja, bhojanaṁ virasampi khudādubbalyaṁ apaneti; evameva kho, mahārāja, suvipannopi samaṇadussīlo dāyakānaṁ dakkhiṇaṁ visodheti.

Bhāsitampetaṁ, mahārāja, tathāgatena devātidevena majjhimanikāyavaralañchake dakkhiṇavibhaṅge veyyākaraṇe—

Bhāsitampetaṁ, mahārāja, tathāgatena devātidevena majjhimanikāyavaralañchake dakkhiṇavibhaṅge veyyākaraṇe—

Bhāsitampetaṁ, mahārāja, tathāgatena devātidevena majjhimanikāyavaralañchake dakkhiṇavibhaṅge veyyākaraṇe—

‘Yo sīlavā dussīlesu dadāti dānaṁ, Dhammena laddhaṁ supasannacitto; Abhisaddahaṁ kammaphalaṁ uḷāraṁ, Sā dakkhiṇā dāyakato visujjhatī’”ti.

‘Yo sīlavā dussīlesu dadāti dānaṁ,
Dhammena laddhaṁ supasannacitto;
Abhisaddahaṁ kammaphalaṁ uḷāraṁ,
Sā dakkhiṇā dāyakato visujjhatī’”ti.

‘Yo sīlavā dussīlesu dadāti dānaṁ, Dhammena laddhaṁ supasannacitto; Abhisaddahaṁ kammaphalaṁ uḷāraṁ, Sā dakkhiṇā dāyakato visujjhatī’”ti.

“Acchariyaṁ, bhante nāgasena, abbhutaṁ, bhante nāgasena, tāvatakaṁ mayaṁ pañhaṁ apucchimha, taṁ tvaṁ opammehi kāraṇehi vibhāvento amatamadhuraṁ savanūpagaṁ akāsi. Yathā nāma, bhante, sūdo vā sūdantevāsī vā tāvatakaṁ maṁsaṁ labhitvā nānāvidhehi sambhārehi sampādetvā rājūpabhogaṁ karoti; evameva kho, bhante nāgasena, tāvatakaṁ mayaṁ pañhaṁ apucchimha, taṁ tvaṁ opammehi kāraṇehi vibhāvetvā amatamadhuraṁ savanūpagaṁ akāsī”ti.

“Acchariyaṁ, bhante nāgasena, abbhutaṁ, bhante nāgasena, tāvatakaṁ mayaṁ pañhaṁ apucchimha, taṁ tvaṁ opammehi kāraṇehi vibhāvento amatamadhuraṁ savanūpagaṁ akāsi.
Yathā nāma, bhante, sūdo vā sūdantevāsī vā tāvatakaṁ maṁsaṁ labhitvā nānāvidhehi sambhārehi sampādetvā rājūpabhogaṁ karoti;
evameva kho, bhante nāgasena, tāvatakaṁ mayaṁ pañhaṁ apucchimha, taṁ tvaṁ opammehi kāraṇehi vibhāvetvā amatamadhuraṁ savanūpagaṁ akāsī”ti.

“Acchariyaṁ, bhante nāgasena, abbhutaṁ, bhante nāgasena, tāvatakaṁ mayaṁ pañhaṁ apucchimha, taṁ tvaṁ opammehi kāraṇehi vibhāvento amatamadhuraṁ savanūpagaṁ akāsi. Yathā nāma, bhante, sūdo vā sūdantevāsī vā tāvatakaṁ maṁsaṁ labhitvā nānāvidhehi sambhārehi sampādetvā rājūpabhogaṁ karoti; evameva kho, bhante nāgasena, tāvatakaṁ mayaṁ pañhaṁ apucchimha, taṁ tvaṁ opammehi kāraṇehi vibhāvetvā amatamadhuraṁ savanūpagaṁ akāsī”ti.

Dussīlapañho aṭṭhamo. *Dussīlapañho → samaṇadussīlagihidussīlapañho (maku)

Dussīlapañho aṭṭhamo. *Dussīlapañho → samaṇadussīlagihidussīlapañho (maku)

Dussīlapañho aṭṭhamo. *Dussīlapañho → samaṇadussīlagihidussīlapañho (maku)

AnteriorObstáculos para la realizaciónMil 6.1.7·AbhisamayantarāyakarapañhaSiguienteSi el agua tiene almaMil 6.1.9·Udakasattajīvapañha

Texto original en pali: Mahāsaṅgīti Tipiṭaka Buddhavasse 2500.

Datos pali, segmentación, variantes y metadatos: importados desde SuttaCentral.

Traducción al inglés: T W Rhys Davids.

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