PTS vp En 202 PTS cs 85 ‘Venerable Nāgasena, does there exist the spot—either in the direction of the East, or of the South, or of the West, or of the North, either above, or below, or on the horizon-where Nirvāṇa is stored up ?’
‘There is no spot, O king—either in the East, or the South, or in the West, or the North, either above, or below, or on the horizon—where Nirvāṇa is.’
‘But if so, Nāgasena, then neither can Nirvāṇa exist, and those who realise it, their realisation is vain. And I will give you an explanation of this. Just, Sir, as there are on the earth fields in which crops can be grown, flowers from which perfumes come, bushes on which flowers can grow, trees on which fruits can ripen, mines from which gems can be dug, so that whosoever desires any of these things can go there and get it—just so, Nāgasena, if PTS vp Pali 327 Nirvāṇa exists one must expect there to be some place, where it is produced. But since there is not, therefore I declare that there can be no Nirvāṇa, and those who realise it, their realisation is vain.’
PTS cs 86 ‘There is no spot, O king, where Nirvāṇa is PTS vp En 203 situate, and yet Nirvāṇa is, and he who orders his life right will, by careful attention, realise Nirvāṇa. Just as fire exists, and yet there is no place where fire (by itself) is stored up. But if a man rubs two sticks together the fire comes;—just so, O king, Nirvāṇa exists, though there is no spot where it is stored up. And he who orders his life aright will, by careful attention, realise Nirvāṇa.
PTS cs 87 ‘Or again, O king, just as there are the seven treasures of the king of kings—the treasure of the wheel, and the treasure of the elephant, and the treasure of the horse, and the treasure of the gem, and the treasure of the woman, and the treasure of the finance minister, and the treasure of the adviser. But there is no spot where these treasures are laid up. When a sovran conducts himself aright they appear to him of their own accord —just so, O king, Nirvāṇa, exists, though there is no place where it is stored up. And he who orders his life aright will, by careful attention, realise Nirvāṇa.’
PTS cs 88 ‘Venerable Nāgasena, let it be granted that there is no place where Nirvāṇa, is stored up. But is there any place on which a man may stand and, ordering his life aright, realise Nirvāṇa?’
‘Yes, O king, there is such a place.’
‘Which then, Nāgasena, is that place
‘Virtue, O king, is the place. For if grounded in virtue, and careful in attention—whether in the land of the Scythians or the Greeks, whether in China or PTS vp En 204 Tartary, whether in Alexandria or in Nikumba, whether in Benares or in Kosala, whether in Kashmir or in Gandhāra, whether on a mountain top or in the highest heavens —wheresoever he may be, the man who orders his life aright will realise Nirvāṇa. PTS vp Pali 328 Just, O king, as the man who has eyes wherever he may be—in the land of the Scythians or the Greeks, in China or in Tartary, in Alexandria, Nikumba, Benares, or Kosala, in Kashmir or in Gandhāra, on a mountain top or in the highest heavens—will be able to behold the expanse of heaven and to see the horizon facing him—just so, O king, will he who orders his conduct aright and is careful in attention—whether in the land of the Scythians or the Greeks, whether in China or Tartary, whether in Alexandria, or Benares, or Kosala, or Nikumba, whether in Kashmir or in Gandhāra, whether on a mountain top or in the highest heavens—wheresoever he may be, attain to the realisation of Nirvāṇa.’
‘Very good, Nāgasena! You have preached to me of Nirvāṇa, and of the realisation thereof, you have set forth the advantages of virtue, you have explained the supreme attainment, you have raised aloft the standard of the Truth, you have established the eye of Truth, you have shown how right means adopted by those of high aims will be neither PTS vp En 205 barren nor unfruitful. That is so, and I accept it as you say.’
Here ends the problem of the place of Nirvāṇa.
Here ends the Eighth Chapter.
PTS vp En 20612. Nibbānasannihitapañha
12. Nibbānasannihitapañha
12. Nibbānasannihitapañha
“Bhante nāgasena, atthi so padeso puratthimāya vā disāya dakkhiṇāya vā disāya pacchimāya vā disāya uttarāya vā disāya uddhaṁ vā adho vā tiriyaṁ vā, yattha nibbānaṁ sannihitan”ti? “Natthi, mahārāja, so padeso puratthimāya vā disāya dakkhiṇāya vā disāya pacchimāya vā disāya uttarāya vā disāya uddhaṁ vā adho vā tiriyaṁ vā, yattha nibbānaṁ sannihitan”ti.
“Bhante nāgasena, atthi so padeso puratthimāya vā disāya dakkhiṇāya vā disāya pacchimāya vā disāya uttarāya vā disāya uddhaṁ vā adho vā tiriyaṁ vā, yattha nibbānaṁ sannihitan”ti?
“Natthi, mahārāja, so padeso puratthimāya vā disāya dakkhiṇāya vā disāya pacchimāya vā disāya uttarāya vā disāya uddhaṁ vā adho vā tiriyaṁ vā, yattha nibbānaṁ sannihitan”ti.
“Bhante nāgasena, atthi so padeso puratthimāya vā disāya dakkhiṇāya vā disāya pacchimāya vā disāya uttarāya vā disāya uddhaṁ vā adho vā tiriyaṁ vā, yattha nibbānaṁ sannihitan”ti? “Natthi, mahārāja, so padeso puratthimāya vā disāya dakkhiṇāya vā disāya pacchimāya vā disāya uttarāya vā disāya uddhaṁ vā adho vā tiriyaṁ vā, yattha nibbānaṁ sannihitan”ti.
“Yadi, bhante nāgasena, natthi nibbānassa sannihitokāso, tena hi natthi nibbānaṁ? Yesañca taṁ nibbānaṁ sacchikataṁ, tesampi sacchikiriyā micchā, kāraṇaṁ tattha vakkhāmi. Yathā, bhante nāgasena, mahiyā dhaññuṭṭhānaṁ khettaṁ atthi, gandhuṭṭhānaṁ pupphaṁ atthi, pupphuṭṭhānaṁ gumbo atthi, phaluṭṭhānaṁ rukkho atthi, ratanuṭṭhānaṁ ākaro atthi, tattha yo koci yaṁ yaṁ icchati, so tattha gantvā taṁ taṁ harati; evameva kho, bhante nāgasena, yadi nibbānaṁ atthi, tassa nibbānassa uṭṭhānokāsopi icchitabbo, yasmā ca kho, bhante nāgasena, nibbānassa uṭṭhānokāso natthi, tasmā natthi nibbānanti brūmi, yesañca nibbānaṁ sacchikataṁ, tesampi sacchikiriyā micchā”ti.
“Yadi, bhante nāgasena, natthi nibbānassa sannihitokāso, tena hi natthi nibbānaṁ?
Yesañca taṁ nibbānaṁ sacchikataṁ, tesampi sacchikiriyā micchā, kāraṇaṁ tattha vakkhāmi.
Yathā, bhante nāgasena, mahiyā dhaññuṭṭhānaṁ khettaṁ atthi, gandhuṭṭhānaṁ pupphaṁ atthi, pupphuṭṭhānaṁ gumbo atthi, phaluṭṭhānaṁ rukkho atthi, ratanuṭṭhānaṁ ākaro atthi, tattha yo koci yaṁ yaṁ icchati, so tattha gantvā taṁ taṁ harati;
evameva kho, bhante nāgasena, yadi nibbānaṁ atthi, tassa nibbānassa uṭṭhānokāsopi icchitabbo, yasmā ca kho, bhante nāgasena, nibbānassa uṭṭhānokāso natthi, tasmā natthi nibbānanti brūmi, yesañca nibbānaṁ sacchikataṁ, tesampi sacchikiriyā micchā”ti.
“Yadi, bhante nāgasena, natthi nibbānassa sannihitokāso, tena hi natthi nibbānaṁ? Yesañca taṁ nibbānaṁ sacchikataṁ, tesampi sacchikiriyā micchā, kāraṇaṁ tattha vakkhāmi. Yathā, bhante nāgasena, mahiyā dhaññuṭṭhānaṁ khettaṁ atthi, gandhuṭṭhānaṁ pupphaṁ atthi, pupphuṭṭhānaṁ gumbo atthi, phaluṭṭhānaṁ rukkho atthi, ratanuṭṭhānaṁ ākaro atthi, tattha yo koci yaṁ yaṁ icchati, so tattha gantvā taṁ taṁ harati; evameva kho, bhante nāgasena, yadi nibbānaṁ atthi, tassa nibbānassa uṭṭhānokāsopi icchitabbo, yasmā ca kho, bhante nāgasena, nibbānassa uṭṭhānokāso natthi, tasmā natthi nibbānanti brūmi, yesañca nibbānaṁ sacchikataṁ, tesampi sacchikiriyā micchā”ti.
“Natthi, mahārāja, nibbānassa sannihitokāso, atthi cetaṁ nibbānaṁ, sammāpaṭipanno yoniso manasikārena nibbānaṁ sacchikaroti. Yathā pana, mahārāja, atthi aggi nāma, natthi tassa sannihitokāso, dve kaṭṭhāni saṅghaṭṭento aggiṁ adhigacchati; evameva kho, mahārāja, atthi nibbānaṁ, natthi tassa sannihitokāso, sammāpaṭipanno yoniso manasikārena nibbānaṁ sacchikaroti.
“Natthi, mahārāja, nibbānassa sannihitokāso, atthi cetaṁ nibbānaṁ, sammāpaṭipanno yoniso manasikārena nibbānaṁ sacchikaroti.
Yathā pana, mahārāja, atthi aggi nāma, natthi tassa sannihitokāso, dve kaṭṭhāni saṅghaṭṭento aggiṁ adhigacchati;
evameva kho, mahārāja, atthi nibbānaṁ, natthi tassa sannihitokāso, sammāpaṭipanno yoniso manasikārena nibbānaṁ sacchikaroti.
“Natthi, mahārāja, nibbānassa sannihitokāso, atthi cetaṁ nibbānaṁ, sammāpaṭipanno yoniso manasikārena nibbānaṁ sacchikaroti. Yathā pana, mahārāja, atthi aggi nāma, natthi tassa sannihitokāso, dve kaṭṭhāni saṅghaṭṭento aggiṁ adhigacchati; evameva kho, mahārāja, atthi nibbānaṁ, natthi tassa sannihitokāso, sammāpaṭipanno yoniso manasikārena nibbānaṁ sacchikaroti.
Yathā vā pana, mahārāja, atthi satta ratanāni nāma. Seyyathidaṁ—cakkaratanaṁ hatthiratanaṁ assaratanaṁ maṇiratanaṁ itthiratanaṁ gahapatiratanaṁ pariṇāyakaratanaṁ. Na ca tesaṁ ratanānaṁ sannihitokāso atthi, khattiyassa pana sammāpaṭipannassa paṭipattibalena tāni ratanāni upagacchanti. Evameva kho, mahārāja, atthi nibbānaṁ, natthi tassa sannihitokāso, sammāpaṭipanno yoniso manasikārena nibbānaṁ sacchikarotī”ti.
Yathā vā pana, mahārāja, atthi satta ratanāni nāma.
cakkaratanaṁ hatthiratanaṁ assaratanaṁ maṇiratanaṁ itthiratanaṁ gahapatiratanaṁ pariṇāyakaratanaṁ.
Na ca tesaṁ ratanānaṁ sannihitokāso atthi, khattiyassa pana sammāpaṭipannassa paṭipattibalena tāni ratanāni upagacchanti.
Evameva kho, mahārāja, atthi nibbānaṁ, natthi tassa sannihitokāso, sammāpaṭipanno yoniso manasikārena nibbānaṁ sacchikarotī”ti.
Yathā vā pana, mahārāja, atthi satta ratanāni nāma. Seyyathidaṁ—cakkaratanaṁ hatthiratanaṁ assaratanaṁ maṇiratanaṁ itthiratanaṁ gahapatiratanaṁ pariṇāyakaratanaṁ. Na ca tesaṁ ratanānaṁ sannihitokāso atthi, khattiyassa pana sammāpaṭipannassa paṭipattibalena tāni ratanāni upagacchanti. Evameva kho, mahārāja, atthi nibbānaṁ, natthi tassa sannihitokāso, sammāpaṭipanno yoniso manasikārena nibbānaṁ sacchikarotī”ti.
“Bhante nāgasena, nibbānassa sannihitokāso mā hotu, atthi pana taṁ ṭhānaṁ, yattha ṭhito sammāpaṭipanno nibbānaṁ sacchikarotī”ti? “Āma, mahārāja, atthi taṁ ṭhānaṁ, yattha ṭhito sammāpaṭipanno nibbānaṁ sacchikarotī”ti.
“Bhante nāgasena, nibbānassa sannihitokāso mā hotu, atthi pana taṁ ṭhānaṁ, yattha ṭhito sammāpaṭipanno nibbānaṁ sacchikarotī”ti?
“Āma, mahārāja, atthi taṁ ṭhānaṁ, yattha ṭhito sammāpaṭipanno nibbānaṁ sacchikarotī”ti.
“Bhante nāgasena, nibbānassa sannihitokāso mā hotu, atthi pana taṁ ṭhānaṁ, yattha ṭhito sammāpaṭipanno nibbānaṁ sacchikarotī”ti? “Āma, mahārāja, atthi taṁ ṭhānaṁ, yattha ṭhito sammāpaṭipanno nibbānaṁ sacchikarotī”ti.
“Katamaṁ pana, bhante, taṁ ṭhānaṁ, yattha ṭhito sammāpaṭipanno nibbānaṁ sacchikarotī”ti? “Sīlaṁ, mahārāja, ṭhānaṁ, sīle patiṭṭhito yoniso manasikaronto sakkayavanepi cīnavilātepi alasandepi nigumbepi kāsikosalepi kasmīrepi gandhārepi nagamuddhanipi brahmalokepi yattha katthacipi ṭhito sammāpaṭipanno nibbānaṁ sacchikaroti. *nigumbepi → nikumbepi (bj, maku, pts-vp-pli1)Yathā, mahārāja, yo koci cakkhumā puriso sakayavanepi cīnavilātepi alasandepi nigumbepi kāsikosalepi kasmīrepi gandhārepi nagamuddhanipi brahmalokepi yattha katthacipi ṭhito ākāsaṁ passati; evameva kho, mahārāja, sīle patiṭṭhito yoniso manasikaronto sakayavanepi …pe… yattha katthacipi ṭhito sammāpaṭipanno nibbānaṁ sacchikaroti.
“Katamaṁ pana, bhante, taṁ ṭhānaṁ, yattha ṭhito sammāpaṭipanno nibbānaṁ sacchikarotī”ti?
“Sīlaṁ, mahārāja, ṭhānaṁ, sīle patiṭṭhito yoniso manasikaronto sakkayavanepi cīnavilātepi alasandepi nigumbepi kāsikosalepi kasmīrepi gandhārepi nagamuddhanipi brahmalokepi yattha katthacipi ṭhito sammāpaṭipanno nibbānaṁ sacchikaroti. *nigumbepi → nikumbepi (bj, maku, pts-vp-pli1)
Yathā, mahārāja, yo koci cakkhumā puriso sakayavanepi cīnavilātepi alasandepi nigumbepi kāsikosalepi kasmīrepi gandhārepi nagamuddhanipi brahmalokepi yattha katthacipi ṭhito ākāsaṁ passati;
evameva kho, mahārāja, sīle patiṭṭhito yoniso manasikaronto sakayavanepi …pe…
yattha katthacipi ṭhito sammāpaṭipanno nibbānaṁ sacchikaroti.
“Katamaṁ pana, bhante, taṁ ṭhānaṁ, yattha ṭhito sammāpaṭipanno nibbānaṁ sacchikarotī”ti? “Sīlaṁ, mahārāja, ṭhānaṁ, sīle patiṭṭhito yoniso manasikaronto sakkayavanepi cīnavilātepi alasandepi nigumbepi kāsikosalepi kasmīrepi gandhārepi nagamuddhanipi brahmalokepi yattha katthacipi ṭhito sammāpaṭipanno nibbānaṁ sacchikaroti. *nigumbepi → nikumbepi (bj, maku, pts-vp-pli1)Yathā, mahārāja, yo koci cakkhumā puriso sakayavanepi cīnavilātepi alasandepi nigumbepi kāsikosalepi kasmīrepi gandhārepi nagamuddhanipi brahmalokepi yattha katthacipi ṭhito ākāsaṁ passati; evameva kho, mahārāja, sīle patiṭṭhito yoniso manasikaronto sakayavanepi …pe… yattha katthacipi ṭhito sammāpaṭipanno nibbānaṁ sacchikaroti.
Yathā vā pana, mahārāja, sakayavanepi …pe… yattha katthacipi ṭhitassa pubbadisā atthi; evameva kho, mahārāja, sīle patiṭṭhitassa yoniso manasikarontassa sakkayavanepi …pe… yattha katthacipi ṭhitassa sammāpaṭipannassa atthi nibbānasacchikiriyā”ti. “Sādhu, bhante nāgasena, desitaṁ tayā nibbānaṁ, desitā nibbānasacchikiriyā, parikkhatā sīlaguṇā, dassitā sammāpaṭipatti, ussāpito dhammaddhajo, saṇṭhapitā dhammanetti, avañjho suppayuttānaṁ sammāpayogo, evametaṁ gaṇivarapavara tathā sampaṭicchāmī”ti.
Yathā vā pana, mahārāja, sakayavanepi …pe…
yattha katthacipi ṭhitassa pubbadisā atthi;
evameva kho, mahārāja, sīle patiṭṭhitassa yoniso manasikarontassa sakkayavanepi …pe…
yattha katthacipi ṭhitassa sammāpaṭipannassa atthi nibbānasacchikiriyā”ti.
“Sādhu, bhante nāgasena, desitaṁ tayā nibbānaṁ, desitā nibbānasacchikiriyā, parikkhatā sīlaguṇā, dassitā sammāpaṭipatti, ussāpito dhammaddhajo, saṇṭhapitā dhammanetti, avañjho suppayuttānaṁ sammāpayogo, evametaṁ gaṇivarapavara tathā sampaṭicchāmī”ti.
Yathā vā pana, mahārāja, sakayavanepi …pe… yattha katthacipi ṭhitassa pubbadisā atthi; evameva kho, mahārāja, sīle patiṭṭhitassa yoniso manasikarontassa sakkayavanepi …pe… yattha katthacipi ṭhitassa sammāpaṭipannassa atthi nibbānasacchikiriyā”ti. “Sādhu, bhante nāgasena, desitaṁ tayā nibbānaṁ, desitā nibbānasacchikiriyā, parikkhatā sīlaguṇā, dassitā sammāpaṭipatti, ussāpito dhammaddhajo, saṇṭhapitā dhammanetti, avañjho suppayuttānaṁ sammāpayogo, evametaṁ gaṇivarapavara tathā sampaṭicchāmī”ti.
Nibbānasannihitapañho dvādasamo. *Nibbānasannihitapañho → nibbānassapaṭṭhānapañho (maku)
Nibbānasannihitapañho dvādasamo. *Nibbānasannihitapañho → nibbānassapaṭṭhānapañho (maku)
Nibbānasannihitapañho dvādasamo. *Nibbānasannihitapañho → nibbānassapaṭṭhānapañho (maku)
Vessantaravaggo tatiyo.
Vessantaravaggo tatiyo.
Imasmiṁ vagge dvādasa pañhā.
Imasmiṁ vagge dvādasa pañhā.
Imasmiṁ vagge dvādasa pañhā.