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Más adelante esta insignia aparecerá solo cuando todos los suttas de la sección estén leídos.
In a battle between the gods and the demons, and the demon lord Vepacitti is captured and brought in chains to Sakka’s hall. Vepacitti abuses Sakka, who endures his harsh words in patience. The charioteer Mātali asks whether he is silent out of weakness or fear, but Sakka says there is no point is wasting words arguing with a fool.
At Sāvatthī.
Sāvatthinidānaṁ.
At Sāvatthī. Sāvatthinidānaṁ.
“Once upon a time, mendicants, a battle was fought between the gods and the titans.
“Bhūtapubbaṁ, bhikkhave, devāsurasaṅgāmo samupabyūḷho ahosi.
“Once upon a time, mendicants, a battle was fought between the gods and the titans. “Bhūtapubbaṁ, bhikkhave, devāsurasaṅgāmo samupabyūḷho ahosi.
Then Vepacitti, lord of titans, addressed the titans,*Vepacitti (“wise thinker”) was the lord of the asuras and Sakka’s counterpart; their relationship status is complicated. The Sanskrit form is vipracitti, but in Buddhist texts it is incorrectly Sanskritized to vemacitra. He seems not to appear in early Sanskrit texts, but the Mahābhārata and Purāṇas regard him as the eldest son of Danū and hence chief of the Dānavas. ‘My good fellows, if the titans defeat the gods in this battle, bind Sakka, the lord of gods, by his limbs and neck and bring him to my presence in the citadel of the titans.’
Atha kho, bhikkhave, vepacitti asurindo asure āmantesi: ‘sace, mārisā, devānaṁ asurasaṅgāme samupabyūḷhe asurā jineyyuṁ devā parājineyyuṁ, yena naṁ sakkaṁ devānamindaṁ kaṇṭhapañcamehi bandhanehi bandhitvā mama santike āneyyātha asurapuran’ti.*parājineyyuṁ → parājeyyuṁ (bj, pts1ed, pts2ed)
Then Vepacitti, lord of titans, addressed the titans,*Vepacitti (“wise thinker”) was the lord of the asuras and Sakka’s counterpart; their relationship status is complicated. The Sanskrit form is vipracitti, but in Buddhist texts it is incorrectly Sanskritized to vemacitra. He seems not to appear in early Sanskrit texts, but the Mahābhārata and Purāṇas regard him as the eldest son of Danū and hence chief of the Dānavas.Atha kho, bhikkhave, vepacitti asurindo asure āmantesi: ‘My good fellows, if the titans defeat the gods in this battle, bind Sakka, the lord of gods, by his limbs and neck and bring him to my presence in the citadel of the titans.’ ‘sace, mārisā, devānaṁ asurasaṅgāme samupabyūḷhe asurā jineyyuṁ devā parājineyyuṁ, yena naṁ sakkaṁ devānamindaṁ kaṇṭhapañcamehi bandhanehi bandhitvā mama santike āneyyātha asurapuran’ti.*parājineyyuṁ → parājeyyuṁ (bj, pts1ed, pts2ed)
Meanwhile, Sakka, lord of gods, addressed the gods of the thirty-three, ‘My good fellows, if the gods defeat the titans in this battle, bind Vepacitti by his limbs and neck and bring him to my presence in the Hall of Clear Right of the gods.’
Sakkopi kho, bhikkhave, devānamindo deve tāvatiṁse āmantesi: ‘sace, mārisā, devānaṁ asurasaṅgāme samupabyūḷhe devā jineyyuṁ asurā parājineyyuṁ, yena naṁ vepacittiṁ asurindaṁ kaṇṭhapañcamehi bandhanehi bandhitvā mama santike āneyyātha sudhammasabhan’ti.
Meanwhile, Sakka, lord of gods, addressed the gods of the thirty-three, Sakkopi kho, bhikkhave, devānamindo deve tāvatiṁse āmantesi: ‘My good fellows, if the gods defeat the titans in this battle, bind Vepacitti by his limbs and neck and bring him to my presence in the Hall of Clear Right of the gods.’ ‘sace, mārisā, devānaṁ asurasaṅgāme samupabyūḷhe devā jineyyuṁ asurā parājineyyuṁ, yena naṁ vepacittiṁ asurindaṁ kaṇṭhapañcamehi bandhanehi bandhitvā mama santike āneyyātha sudhammasabhan’ti.
In that battle the gods won and the titans lost. So the gods of the thirty-three bound Vepacitti by his limbs and neck and brought him to Sakka’s presence in the Hall of Clear Right of the gods.
Tasmiṁ kho pana, bhikkhave, saṅgāme devā jiniṁsu, asurā parājiniṁsu.*parājiniṁsu → parājiṁsu (bj, pts1ed, pts2ed) Atha kho, bhikkhave, devā tāvatiṁsā vepacittiṁ asurindaṁ kaṇṭhapañcamehi bandhanehi bandhitvā sakkassa devānamindassa santike ānesuṁ sudhammasabhaṁ.
In that battle the gods won and the titans lost. Tasmiṁ kho pana, bhikkhave, saṅgāme devā jiniṁsu, asurā parājiniṁsu.*parājiniṁsu → parājiṁsu (bj, pts1ed, pts2ed)So the gods of the thirty-three bound Vepacitti by his limbs and neck and brought him to Sakka’s presence in the Hall of Clear Right of the gods. Atha kho, bhikkhave, devā tāvatiṁsā vepacittiṁ asurindaṁ kaṇṭhapañcamehi bandhanehi bandhitvā sakkassa devānamindassa santike ānesuṁ sudhammasabhaṁ.
And as Sakka was entering and leaving the hall, Vepacitti abused and insulted him with rude, harsh words.*It seems they had strong feelings for each other. So Mātali the chariot handler addressed Sakka in verse,*Mātali is the charioteer of Sakka. He appears at DN 20:10.8 as one of the centaur lords, and is father to the centaur Sikhaṇḍī, Pañcasikha’s rival in love (DN 21:1.6.8). In Pali, he is never addressed with the usual word for charioteer (sārathi), but by the epithet saṅgāhaka, literally “gatherer” in the sense “one who holds the reins”, here “chariot handler”, recalling the centaur who took the reins from Indra (Rig Veda 1.163.2). Later Brahmanical literature also knows him as Indra’s charioteer, but pre-Buddhist references are few and obscure. He flourishes in the land of Yama along with the poets (Rig Veda 10.14.3 = Atharva Veda 18.1.47); he is made of magic (Atharva Veda 8.9.5); he knows the immortal balm bought by a chariot’s price that is infused by Indra in the waters (Atharva Veda 11.6.23).
Tatra sudaṁ, bhikkhave, vepacitti asurindo kaṇṭhapañcamehi bandhanehi baddho sakkaṁ devānamindaṁ sudhammasabhaṁ pavisantañca nikkhamantañca asabbhāhi pharusāhi vācāhi akkosati paribhāsati. Atha kho, bhikkhave, mātali saṅgāhako sakkaṁ devānamindaṁ gāthāhi ajjhabhāsi:
And as Sakka was entering and leaving the hall, Vepacitti abused and insulted him with rude, harsh words.*It seems they had strong feelings for each other.Tatra sudaṁ, bhikkhave, vepacitti asurindo kaṇṭhapañcamehi bandhanehi baddho sakkaṁ devānamindaṁ sudhammasabhaṁ pavisantañca nikkhamantañca asabbhāhi pharusāhi vācāhi akkosati paribhāsati. So Mātali the chariot handler addressed Sakka in verse,*Mātali is the charioteer of Sakka. He appears at DN 20:10.8 as one of the centaur lords, and is father to the centaur Sikhaṇḍī, Pañcasikha’s rival in love (DN 21:1.6.8). In Pali, he is never addressed with the usual word for charioteer (sārathi), but by the epithet saṅgāhaka, literally “gatherer” in the sense “one who holds the reins”, here “chariot handler”, recalling the centaur who took the reins from Indra (Rig Veda 1.163.2). Later Brahmanical literature also knows him as Indra’s charioteer, but pre-Buddhist references are few and obscure. He flourishes in the land of Yama along with the poets (Rig Veda 10.14.3 = Atharva Veda 18.1.47); he is made of magic (Atharva Veda 8.9.5); he knows the immortal balm bought by a chariot’s price that is infused by Indra in the waters (Atharva Veda 11.6.23).Atha kho, bhikkhave, mātali saṅgāhako sakkaṁ devānamindaṁ gāthāhi ajjhabhāsi:
‘O Maghavā, O Sakka,*For Sakka’s epithets, see SN 11.12 and notes there. is it from fear or from weakness that you endure such harsh words in the presence of Vepacitti?’
‘Bhayā nu maghavā sakka, dubbalyā no titikkhasi; Suṇanto pharusaṁ vācaṁ, sammukhā vepacittino’ti.
‘O Maghavā, O Sakka,*For Sakka’s epithets, see SN 11.12 and notes there.‘Bhayā nu maghavā sakka, is it from fear or from weakness dubbalyā no titikkhasi; that you endure such harsh words Suṇanto pharusaṁ vācaṁ, in the presence of Vepacitti?’ sammukhā vepacittino’ti.
‘It’s not out of fear or weakness that I’m patient with Vepacitti. For how can a sensible person like me get in a fight with a fool?’
‘Nāhaṁ bhayā na dubbalyā, khamāmi vepacittino; Kathañhi mādiso viññū, bālena paṭisaṁyuje’ti.
‘It’s not out of fear or weakness ‘Nāhaṁ bhayā na dubbalyā, that I’m patient with Vepacitti. khamāmi vepacittino; For how can a sensible person like me Kathañhi mādiso viññū, get in a fight with a fool?’ bālena paṭisaṁyuje’ti.
‘Fools would vent even more if there’s no-one to put a stop to them. So a wise one should stop a fool with forceful punishment.’*Throughout this chapter, Mātali displays more of the old martial character, and Sakka leads him to growth, as he does for the titans.
‘Bhiyyo bālā pabhijjeyyuṁ, no cassa paṭisedhako; Tasmā bhusena daṇḍena, dhīro bālaṁ nisedhaye’ti.
‘Fools would vent even more ‘Bhiyyo bālā pabhijjeyyuṁ, if there’s no-one to put a stop to them. no cassa paṭisedhako; So a wise one should stop Tasmā bhusena daṇḍena, a fool with forceful punishment.’*Throughout this chapter, Mātali displays more of the old martial character, and Sakka leads him to growth, as he does for the titans.dhīro bālaṁ nisedhaye’ti.
‘I think that this is the only way to put a stop to a fool, when you know that the other is upset, be mindful and stay calm.’
‘Etadeva ahaṁ maññe, bālassa paṭisedhanaṁ; Paraṁ saṅkupitaṁ ñatvā, yo sato upasammatī’ti.
‘I think that this is the only way ‘Etadeva ahaṁ maññe, to put a stop to a fool, bālassa paṭisedhanaṁ; when you know that the other is upset, Paraṁ saṅkupitaṁ ñatvā, be mindful and stay calm.’ yo sato upasammatī’ti.
‘In this mere endurance, Vāsava, I see a flaw. When a fool thinks, “He endures me out of fear,” the simpleton will go after you even harder, like a cow chasing someone who runs away.’
‘Etadeva titikkhāya, vajjaṁ passāmi vāsava; Yadā naṁ maññati bālo, bhayā myāyaṁ titikkhati; Ajjhāruhati dummedho, gova bhiyyo palāyinan’ti.
‘In this mere endurance, Vāsava, ‘Etadeva titikkhāya, I see a flaw. vajjaṁ passāmi vāsava; When a fool thinks, Yadā naṁ maññati bālo, “He endures me out of fear,” bhayā myāyaṁ titikkhati; the simpleton will go after you even harder, Ajjhāruhati dummedho, like a cow chasing someone who runs away.’ gova bhiyyo palāyinan’ti.
‘Let him think this if he wishes, or not— “He endures me out of fear.” For the highest goal, one’s own,*I take sadatthaparamā atthā as truncated dative of purpose; see discussion at SN 11.8:2.2. naught better than patience is found.*This phrase parallels SN 11.8:3.4.
‘Kāmaṁ maññatu vā mā vā, bhayā myāyaṁ titikkhati; Sadatthaparamā atthā, khantyā bhiyyo na vijjati.
‘Let him think this if he wishes, or not—‘Kāmaṁ maññatu vā mā vā, “He endures me out of fear.” bhayā myāyaṁ titikkhati; For the highest goal, one’s own,*I take sadatthaparamā atthā as truncated dative of purpose; see discussion at SN 11.8:2.2.Sadatthaparamā atthā, naught better than patience is found.*This phrase parallels SN 11.8:3.4.khantyā bhiyyo na vijjati.
When a strong person endures a weakling, they call that the ultimate patience, for a weakling must always be patient.
Yo have balavā santo, dubbalassa titikkhati; Tamāhu paramaṁ khantiṁ, niccaṁ khamati dubbalo.
When a strong person Yo have balavā santo, endures a weakling, dubbalassa titikkhati; they call that the ultimate patience, Tamāhu paramaṁ khantiṁ, for a weakling must always be patient. niccaṁ khamati dubbalo.
The strength of folly is really just weakness, they say. But no-one can challenge a person who’s strong, guarded by the teaching.
Abalaṁ taṁ balaṁ āhu, yassa bālabalaṁ balaṁ; Balassa dhammaguttassa, paṭivattā na vijjati.
The strength of folly Abalaṁ taṁ balaṁ āhu, is really just weakness, they say. yassa bālabalaṁ balaṁ; But no-one can challenge a person Balassa dhammaguttassa, who’s strong, guarded by the teaching. paṭivattā na vijjati.
When you get angry at an angry person you just make things worse for yourself. When you don’t get angry at an angry person you win a battle hard to win.
Tasseva tena pāpiyo, yo kuddhaṁ paṭikujjhati; Kuddhaṁ appaṭikujjhanto, saṅgāmaṁ jeti dujjayaṁ.
When you get angry at an angry person Tasseva tena pāpiyo, you just make things worse for yourself. yo kuddhaṁ paṭikujjhati; When you don’t get angry at an angry person Kuddhaṁ appaṭikujjhanto, you win a battle hard to win. saṅgāmaṁ jeti dujjayaṁ.
When you know that the other is angry, you act for the good of both yourself and the other if you’re mindful and stay calm.
Ubhinnamatthaṁ carati, attano ca parassa ca; Paraṁ saṅkupitaṁ ñatvā, yo sato upasammati.
When you know that the other is angry, Ubhinnamatthaṁ carati, you act for the good of both attano ca parassa ca; yourself and the other Paraṁ saṅkupitaṁ ñatvā, if you’re mindful and stay calm. yo sato upasammati.
People inexpert in the teaching consider one who heals both oneself and the other to be a fool.’
Ubhinnaṁ tikicchantānaṁ, attano ca parassa ca; Janā maññanti bāloti, ye dhammassa akovidā’ti.
People inexpert in the teaching Ubhinnaṁ tikicchantānaṁ, consider one who heals both attano ca parassa ca; oneself and the other Janā maññanti bāloti, to be a fool.’ ye dhammassa akovidā’ti.
Since, mendicants, even that Sakka, lord of gods—while living off of the fruit of his good deeds, and ruling as sovereign lord over these gods of the thirty-three—will speak in praise of patience and gentleness, you can excel at this, for you who have gone forth in such a well explained teaching and training can develop patience and gentleness.”
So hi nāmanāmaOriginalmente se refería a la función psicológica central de conceptualizar y nombrar cosas. Gradualmente evolucionó para abarcar todos los fenómenos mentales. En los suttas a veces se define como vedanā (sensación), saññā (percepción), cetanā (intención, volición), phassa (contacto sensorial), y manasikāra (atención, advertencia). Comparar con rūpa. En el Abhidhamma, nāma pasó a referirse a los componentes mentales de los cinco khandhas.Ver en el glosario, bhikkhave, sakko devānamindo sakaṁ puññaphalaṁ upajīvamāno devānaṁ tāvatiṁsānaṁ issariyādhipaccaṁ rajjaṁ kārento khantisoraccassa vaṇṇavādī bhavissati. Idha kho taṁ, bhikkhave, sobhetha yaṁ tumhe evaṁ svākkhāte dhammavinaye pabbajitā samānā khamā ca bhaveyyātha soratā cā”ti.
Since, mendicants, even that Sakka, lord of gods—while living off of the fruit of his good deeds, and ruling as sovereign lord over these gods of the thirty-three—will speak in praise of patience and gentleness, So hi nāmanāmaOriginalmente se refería a la función psicológica central de conceptualizar y nombrar cosas. Gradualmente evolucionó para abarcar todos los fenómenos mentales. En los suttas a veces se define como vedanā (sensación), saññā (percepción), cetanā (intención, volición), phassa (contacto sensorial), y manasikāra (atención, advertencia). Comparar con rūpa. En el Abhidhamma, nāma pasó a referirse a los componentes mentales de los cinco khandhas.Ver en el glosario, bhikkhave, sakko devānamindo sakaṁ puññaphalaṁ upajīvamāno devānaṁ tāvatiṁsānaṁ issariyādhipaccaṁ rajjaṁ kārento khantisoraccassa vaṇṇavādī bhavissati. you can excel at this, for you who have gone forth in such a well explained teaching and training can develop patience and gentleness.” Idha kho taṁ, bhikkhave, sobhetha yaṁ tumhe evaṁ svākkhāte dhammavinaye pabbajitā samānā khamā ca bhaveyyātha soratā cā”ti.